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« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2009, 06:01:38 AM »

I remember a version of that scene turning up in And Starring Pancho Villa as Himself too. It must be either based on historical fact or just a common device for the era.
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« Reply #31 on: June 02, 2009, 10:19:18 PM »

Its a fact, Fiero did do it.  Afro
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« Reply #32 on: July 12, 2010, 02:38:39 PM »

lame!

makes you realize what a great achievment DYS is (LIKE YOU DID NOT KNOW ALREADY Smiley   )
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« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2011, 12:27:14 AM »

just saw 100 Rifles, on Fox Movie Channel. I liked the film very much.
1.  It is an obvious ripoff off of "The Wild Bunch" and "Duck, You Sucker."
2. It looks like the final shootout in the town is on the El Paso set from FAFDM?
3. I liked all the performances (but Raquel Welch's Mexican accent is terrible  Wink)
4. good score by Jerry Goldsmith
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« Reply #34 on: April 11, 2011, 01:25:13 AM »


1.  It is an obvious ripoff off of "The Wild Bunch" and "Duck, You Sucker."

Only that it was made roughly at the same time as TWB and 2 or 3 years before DYS.

And apart form being set in Mexico around the same time, these are 3 very different films.

What should make these 3 films so similar?
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« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2011, 01:28:50 AM »

Only that it was made roughly at the same time as TWB and 2 or 3 years before DYS.

And apart form being set in Mexico around the same time, these are 3 very different films.

What should make these 3 films so similar?


whoops; careless of me not to look at the dates there.... Maybe it's the reverse. so many plot elements are similar
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« Reply #36 on: April 11, 2011, 08:13:45 AM »

The "Zapata Westerns" are uniform in a lot of ways. No need to claim one is a direct inspiration on any other.
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« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2011, 01:32:36 PM »

Only that it was made roughly at the same time as TWB and 2 or 3 years before DYS.

And apart form being set in Mexico around the same time, these are 3 very different films.

What should make these 3 films so similar?


I doubt it was a direct influence on Leone or Peckinpah (or vice versa) but a lot of tropes carry over between the films: the ubiquitous firing squads, the German military advisors, the reluctant "revolutionary" leaders. Jim Brown even says "I ain't no general!" like Juan in DYS at one point.

Anyway the movie sucks. The last battle is decent and Raquel Welch is hot but otherwise it's irredeemable garbage.
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« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2011, 02:25:54 PM »

It was a bit more comedic than I like Westerns to be; but otherwise I really enjoyed it  Afro

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UPDATE:  at the time I wrote the earlier post that I thought 100 Rifles was a ripoff of GBU and The Wild Bunch, it was cuz i had not yet seen any other Westerns that take place at the time of the Mexican Revolution, and I was unaware that that sub-genre existed. So I figured that the timing and other aspects seemed similar; therefore film was a ripoff (which I would have been wrong about anyway cuz of the dates of release, as Groggy pointed out  Embarrassed ). But in the time since that post, I have become aware that there are indeed many Westerns set around the time of the Mexican Revolution; so the similar setting and some other elements in no way indicate any sort of ripoff whatsoever. So I thank Groggy for correcting me and informing of the "Zapata Westerns," which, though at the time I was unaware of, I have since seen several of. So yeah, 100 Rifles is not necessarily a ripoff of any other movie. My bad  Embarrassed


btw, I still disagree with Groggy's opinion of the movie, which I enjoyed. I only saw it once, like a year ago, but I recall thinking it was like a 7/10.

And on an unrelated point, I just wanted to mention that Jim Brown was actually a good actor in his own right, and not just a cameo. (As opposed to the piece of shit O.J. Simpson, who is so bad in The Towering inferno, it's embarrassing; although I guess one acting job he was good at was successfully pretending that gloves don't fit). I can't stand Brown personally, but I reluctantly have to admit that I was surprised to see that he did a good job in the couple of Westerns in which I've seen him
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« Reply #39 on: June 20, 2011, 02:59:05 PM »

I enjoyed it too.

Well directed imo with some good action. I prefer 100 Rifles meanwhile to Will Penny. Both are 7/10
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« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2011, 04:55:43 PM »

Hi people
   can anyone be more specific on any locations in this movie??  gonna be going down to almeria again for 4th trip in september this year and looking to add a few more different move locations to my trip to look for...
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« Reply #41 on: July 10, 2011, 06:25:21 AM »

The final battle town I don't remember being in any Leone Film, the same with the film "Villa Rides" there are quite a few different RR and town locations in it also particularly the arch bridge sequence, check it out also if you can get some leads.
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« Reply #42 on: July 10, 2011, 06:43:59 AM »

I'm pretty sure they use the train station from OUATITW for one of the battle scenes (where Raquel takes her shower), but don't quote me on that. The sandy hills are pretty recognizable from FAFDM among other Spaghettis.
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