Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017

[Novecento]

Hearing that it is a USA release is good news for me.  And if the disc is region-free, that's good news for all you Europeans as well 

Drink, you must be the only person on this forum who cares about region coding. We've been telling you for years, you have to go region free or you end up missing out on some great releases.

[mike siegel]

KINO LORBER is quite big in the US, I thought everybody (actually buying films on disc) knows them...

I co-produced the US CONVOY Blu-ray for them a year ago, nice company, some really good titles.
I am not sure that they have no region code. On the sleeves it states "A". But I belong to those freaks
who always have multiform players, I wouldn't really know or care .

[drinkanddestroy]

Drink, you must be the only person on this forum who cares about region coding. We've been telling you for years, you have to go region free or you end up missing out on some great releases.

Kindly give me a link to a good region-free BRD player that is reasonably priced. Thanks 

[Lil Brutto]

I co-produced the US CONVOY Blu-ray for them a year ago, nice company, some really good titles.

With your connections, can you got some insider info on their GBU release?

[Paulo]

According to a post on Kino Lorber Studio Classics Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/KinoLorberStudioClassics/):

"The disc will have the full version of the "skeleton scene" (without audio) which L'Immagine Ritrovata found when working on their 4K restoration"

I'm trying to find out about the pi$$ yellow situation.

[Paulo]

OK; so i messaged Kino Lorber Studio Classics via Facebook regarding all things yellow, and here is how it went:


Me: Can you tell us if the new GBU Blu-ray will be yellow tinted like the last MGM effort? Thank you
Kino Lorber:   we're working on this issue.

Me: Thank you very much, that is indeed good news. I see only blue skies ahead! The life of this film is in your hands - we need no yellow, and the original mono soundtrack. You have a *real* chance here to make this release beyond definitive. Its life is in your hands...

So... it could be good news, lets hope so  

(the bold / underscore is my emphasis)

[mike siegel]

With your connections, can you got some insider info on their GBU release?

I just (hopefully) started another project with them.
But I see GBU fans are much faster than me regarding getting information...
We all hope the best.

[dave jenkins]

This gives me hope.

But one of the questions about this release has been, How did Kino outbid Criterion for this package? (We know CC was interested at one point). Speculation on my part: Criterion calculated what it would cost to re-do the colors and deducted the cost from their bid. Kino then won the bid handily, not anticipating any additional expenses. Now that the issue has been aired, they're trying to find a cheap way to tweak the colors, to be able to say they tried to do something. But there's no way to do a proper job without laying out some serious cash, and the projected earnings on this project will never justify them spending any more money. End of the day: same bad colors. I hope, hope, hope I'm wrong.

[Le Bon]

According to a post on Kino Lorber Studio Classics Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/KinoLorberStudioClassics/):

"The disc will have the full version of the "skeleton scene" (without audio) which L'Immagine Ritrovata found when working on their 4K restoration"

I'm trying to find out about the pi$$ yellow situation.

If L'Immagine Ritrovata found the skeleton scene when working on their restoration wouldn't we have heard about it before now?

[dave jenkins]

If L'Immagine Ritrovata found the skeleton scene when working on their restoration wouldn't we have heard about it before now?

Not if they found it on your site. 

[Lil Brutto]

Here's the KL representative's response to my questions in another forum:

MisterLime,

Many folks have been asking this very question on several forums over the past few days. Will the KL release of the US theatrical cut be sourced from the 2014 4K master (used for the 2014 MGM BD) or a new 4K master? If the 2014 4K master will be used for the US theatrical cut will the image be altered in any way in terms of color, saturation, contrast?

Also, what is the source of the "M.O.S. Deleted Scene of Blondie in the desert finding skeletons"? Did you find this previously unseen footage in the archives or elsewhere?

The 4K master will be the same master, we're looking into the yellowishness of the master and see if we can make some improvements. We'll make further announcements later.

MGM found the M.O.S. deleted scene and offered it to us as an extra, that's all I know.

[Novecento]

I see only blue skies ahead!  

 

But one of the questions about this release has been, How did Kino outbid Criterion for this package? (We know CC was interested at one point). Speculation on my part: Criterion calculated what it would cost to re-do the colors and deducted the cost from their bid. Kino then won the bid handily, not anticipating any additional expenses. Now that the issue has been aired, they're trying to find a cheap way to tweak the colors, to be able to say they tried to do something. But there's no way to do a proper job without laying out some serious cash, and the projected earnings on this project will never justify them spending any more money. End of the day: same bad colors. I hope, hope, hope I'm wrong.

I hope you are too, but I fear you're probably right  

[Le Bon]

Not if they found it on your site. 

Alas its not my site but Jordan Krug's. 

[Le Bon]

I contacted Kino on facebook and and had a reply today.  I asked about the yellow issue and the theatrical cut being used.

we're working on the "yellow" issue. And to be accurate, they did not use a tint, the assistant cameraman who oversaw the 4K transfer in Italy thought he was delivering a version closest to the director's vision. Some agree, some don't.

The extended version were scenes added to the original, so we don't know why it would worry you one way or another.

[Lil Brutto]

Essentially the same answer regarding the color grading.

"We don't know why it would worry you one way or another." What does this mean?