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« Reply #90 on: June 15, 2017, 01:15:42 PM »

Lil brutto and I are certainly trying to get this film released the way Sergio intended...thanks!

That comparison video of the Tuco gang/hotel scene is fantastic. Excellent job.  Afro

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« Reply #91 on: June 15, 2017, 03:09:37 PM »

Thanks for the great work, Jordan. Where is the link to "Part 2" of your post?

Also, on an unrelated matter: In what ways - video-wise, not audio-wise - do the MGM Special Edition DVD (I think it's 2004?) differ from the original 1967 Italian release? Is it only the Grotto scene? What about the Tuco beatig scene? Anything else?

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« Reply #92 on: June 15, 2017, 04:05:53 PM »

Thanks for the great work, Jordan. Where is the link to "Part 2" of your post?

Also, on an unrelated matter: In what ways - video-wise, not audio-wise - do the MGM Special Edition DVD (I think it's 2004?) differ from the original 1967 Italian release? Is it only the Grotto scene? What about the Tuco beatig scene? Anything else?


I think the answers you seek are in part 2 here:

http://theeditroomfloor.blogspot.ca/2017/04/current-issues-with-good-bad-and-ugly_15.html?m=1

It's a very long post, apologies in advance Smiley

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« Reply #93 on: June 16, 2017, 11:47:35 PM »

The Leone group has one 1966 print still in their archives. The fan group I'm a part of has 2 (one full/one partial.) having the two prints allows us to make some conclusions about the original 1966 cut.

That shortening of the train scene so the music doesn't fit anymore is just bizarre.

For some reason, not only does the 98 dvd incorporate some (but not all) of the Italian version shots into the American version - it actually re-orders a few of them. So effectively someone at MGM recut their own version of the scene, and it matches neither the 1966 Italian cut, nor the 1967 International (U.S) cut. Hopefully Kino will match the 1967 International (U.S.) cut as seen here on a 1967 35mm print and a 1990 laserdisc reference, as that is Leone's approved shorter version.

There are a couple of great transitions in the Mondo and 4k ones absent from the others:

- at the 0:17 mark the dust coming out from the gun cleaning leads into the dust kicked up by the horses
- at the 0:27-0:28 mark there is a nice glide of the cart off screen replaced by the head of the gang member gliding on screen.

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« Reply #94 on: June 17, 2017, 08:08:25 PM »

I think the answers you seek are in part 2 here:

http://theeditroomfloor.blogspot.ca/2017/04/current-issues-with-good-bad-and-ugly_15.html?m=1

It's a very long post, apologies in advance Smiley


Just read through it, thanks  Afro Afro Afro

The 2014 version is identical to the MGM SE DVD?

Again, I can't click the link to Part 3. Can you provide it for me? Thanks  Afro

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« Reply #95 on: June 20, 2017, 11:53:24 AM »

Some new extras are added

Disc 1:
- 4K transfer of the Original U.S. Theatrical Cut Available for the first time in HD
- New Audio Commentary by Film Historian Tim Lucas
- Trailers From Hell with Ernest Dickerson
- Newly Restored 2.0 Mono Audio
- Alternate Scene: The Optical Flip
- Deleted Scene 1: Skeletons in the Desert
- Deleted Scene 2: Extended Torture Scene
- GBU on the: animated behind-the-scenes image gallery
- Promoting GBU: Posters & Lobby Cards animated image gallery
- Sergio Leone Westerns: Original Theatrical Trailers
- Italian Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono
- English DTS-HD MA 5.1 Audio
- Reversible Art

Disc 2:
- 4K transfer of the Extended Cut
- Newly Restored 2.0 Mono Audio
- Audio Commentary by Film Historian Richard Schickel
- Audio Commentary By Noted Cultural Historian Sir Christopher Frayling
- Leone's West: Making Of Documentary (19:55)
- Il Maestro: Ennio Morricone and GBU Featurette Part 1 (7:48)
- Il Maestro: Ennio Morricone and GBU Featurette Part 2 (12:26)
- The Leone Style: On Sergio Leone Featurette (23:48)
- The Man Who Lost The Civil War: Civil War Documentary (14:24)
- Reconstruction GBU (11:09)
- Deleted Scene 1: Extended Tuco Torture scene (7:15)
- Deleted Scene 2: The Socorro Sequence - A Reconstruction (3:02)
- Vignette 1: Uno, Due, Tre (0:40)
- Vignette 2: Italian Lunch (0:43)
- Vignette 3: New York Accent (0:09)
- Vignette 4: Gun in Holster (0:58)
- Original U.S. Theatrical Trailer
- Original French Theatrical Trailer
- English DTS-HD MA 5.1 Audio
- Italian Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono

 They have listed the flip cut as an extra.  They gave the impression it would be in the theatrical cut before as it should be. We'll just have to wait and see now.

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« Reply #96 on: June 20, 2017, 04:18:10 PM »

I made two short (images only) featurettes Smiley.

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« Reply #97 on: June 20, 2017, 04:23:44 PM »

Posters and Lobby Cards?

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« Reply #98 on: June 20, 2017, 04:47:02 PM »

Yes. And "GBU on the set". The word  "set" is missing.

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« Reply #99 on: June 20, 2017, 04:58:07 PM »

How many posters and lobby cards are we talking about? Is this gonna be one of those worth-the-price-of-admission-alone kinda featurettes?

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« Reply #100 on: June 20, 2017, 05:19:16 PM »

Nothing sensational, I just thought it would add some color, after all the posters & cards are so nice. (about 125 from my archive + a handful I don't own.)

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« Reply #101 on: June 20, 2017, 06:29:46 PM »

Nothing sensational, I just thought it would add some color, after all the posters & cards are so nice. (about 125 from my archive + a handful I don't own.)

Awesome Mike. Looking forward to seeing the full sets!

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« Reply #102 on: June 20, 2017, 07:42:36 PM »

So I guess this has to be purhased even if the feature is screwed up  Wink

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« Reply #103 on: June 20, 2017, 07:44:59 PM »

Yeah. Damn you, Siegel! Angry

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« Reply #104 on: June 20, 2017, 07:57:30 PM »

I just did the pre-order. It's $29.95.

This will be the SIXTH disc I have of GBU:

Original MGM DVD of (supposed) US theatrical cut (unrestored)
MGM SE DVD (no original mono)
MGM BRD (red faces, and I believe no original mono, right?)
Mondo BRD (no English audio, serious grading issues)
2014 BRD (piss)
2017 KL (?)

Plus I also have the digital file, purchased from iTunes, on my computer. (i believe that's the same as the SE DVD).

something tells me that, barring a miracle, this STILL will not be the definitive version of the movie. This is probably their evil plan all along. There is no other movie that I own six copies of!

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