Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017

[Le Bon]

Sort of off topic but didn't think it was worth starting a new thread, but this amazing picture just surfaced recently...

https://www.alamy.com/clint-eastwood-lee-van-cleef-sergio-leone-eli-wallach-rome-1966-image211547665.html

There's some more great new ones from the cut scene with Mara Krup.

https://www.alamy.com/clint-eastwood-gian-maria-volont-for-a-few-dollars-more-1965-image211547662.html

[Jordan Krug]

Good find! Sent you an email.

[Lil Brutto]

The great part is that the research continues! There's still much to learn about this film...

Bumping this thread because my statement above still rings true to this day.

With Kino Lorber's recent BD release of FAFDM, I noticed that KL once again included the 1967 logo (aka "The UA-Transamerica Circle", "The UA Ovoid"). This is not correct for 2 reasons: 1) the film debuted in the US on May 10, 1967 but the logo didn't appear until about a month later on June 13, 1967 when You Only Live Twice was released; and 2) more definitive proof, the FAFDM continuity script (page 1) shows that this logo, which would have been part of the pre print element and therefore at the head of reel 1 of the theatrical print, was not included.

As for GBU, ever since MisterLime of KL posted that they "restored" the 1967 UA logo, I've been wondering whether or not the 1967 UA logo is supposed to precede the opening credits of GBU. I've come across 3 US first release prints now and none of them have this logo. Again, if it were printed in, it should have been accounted for in the continuity script. I checked my copy of the continuity script today and it shows no UA logo before the opening titles, only "United Artists presents" that is part of the opening titles.

Also, while doing some digging I came across a website that independently verifies my findings. It states, "The original U.S. theatrical run of The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly did not originally have this logo, as confirmed by the original 1967 continuity script which described the first reel as going straight to the title sequence from the leader."

Cool logo but it doesn't belong.

[dave jenkins]

Cool logo but it doesn't belong.

Are you saying that the UA logo was NEVER on prints of the movie, or only on the first run prints? Because if it's the latter, and UA later put the logo on for subsequent releases, I'd rather have it along than not. It's part of the film's history. If the difference between first run prints and those that came immediately after is only that logo, then let's have the logo.

[cigar joe]

I remember something close to this logo for the films.

[Lil Brutto]

Are you saying that the UA logo was NEVER on prints of the movie, or only on the first run prints? Because if it's the latter, and UA later put the logo on for subsequent releases, I'd rather have it along than not. It's part of the film's history. If the difference between first run prints and those that came immediately after is only that logo, then let's have the logo.

According to this website: http://www.closinglogos.com/page/United+Artists, this particular logo (4th logo) was used from June 13, 1967 to August 3, 1968 so, if used, it would have been the one included for the first theatrical release.

However, I have not come across any evidence yet that this logo was used for the first run IB TECH prints. As I mentioned before, the continuity script does not list it. It's possible that it was spliced in before the first run prints were distributed to theatres but none of the 4 IB prints I've personally seen (3 plus a screening of QT's personal print at the NewBev) have it. Perhaps the logo was lost at some point over the past 52 years on all 4 prints? I don't know. Maybe.

Also keep in mind that the opening titles/credits were unique to the US/UK/Canada in addition to the obvious translation from Italian to English. The sequence of credits to actors such as LVC and Eli Wallach was reordered. Also, the "United Artists presents" title card was inserted just before PEA, whereas the Italian version credits only PEA. Perhaps this explains why the 1967 UA logo may not have been used for GBU?

One thing's for sure, based on their track record with this film I cannot rely on KL's decision to "restore" the logo as evidence that it was included in 1967.

[Lil Brutto]

I remember something close to this logo for the films.

Over the past few decades, home releases have included a logo that was being used by the studio at the time of release. The UA logo (9th logo) that you posted was used from 1982 to 1987.

[cigar joe]

Over the past few decades, home releases have included a logo that was being used by the studio at the time of release. The UA logo (9th logo) that you posted was used from 1982 to 1987.

Like I said it was "something" like what I posted the "UA" but without the United Artists below. I saw the films on Times Square in 66-67 and it definitely wasn't the colorful one.

[Lil Brutto]

Like I said it was "something" like what I posted the "UA" but without the United Artists below. I saw the films on Times Square in 66-67 and it definitely wasn't the colorful one.

Good to know! Maybe this one?



This logo appears at the end of the GBU trailer on the MGM laserdisc. I'll have to check our scan of the IB trailer to see if it's also there.

The same website says the black background variant can be seen on some trailers and B&W films.

[Cusser]

I have original of the soundtrack albums (about 1968), bet that has a logo.

[uncknown]

No.
UA. was still independent.

[Jordan Krug]

Kino has announced a new UHD version of GBU. Its the extended cut with another new color grade (but not HDR) . Hopefully its better.

[dave jenkins]

Kino has announced a new UHD version of GBU. Its the extended cut with another new color grade (but not HDR) . Hopefully its better.

I'm not sure what this means. 30 hours of what? For a 3-hour film? That means 10 passes with some machine operated by a guy who may or may not know what he's doing?
https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=27903

[Jordan Krug]

Quick update: lil brutto and I have gotten Kino the 35mm elements they needed to do a correct 1967 theatrical edit. Their new blu/uhd will have this edit. They want fans to vote on either having the extended or the theatrical in UHD on the Kino Lorber studio classics Facebook page.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3717534361636777&id=682934655096778

[noodles_leone]

I saw their posts about it in my Facebook feed and wondered if you had anything to do with it.