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« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2017, 04:16:37 PM »

But Milian is a weak point of Companeros, his slimey overacting is not that good for the film, but the score is a real stunner. Many scenes in Companeros belong to the best the SW had to offer. But The Merceanry is more daring and has much more substance.
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« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2017, 06:08:03 PM »

But Milian is a weak point of Companeros, his slimey overacting is not that good for the film...

You sound like Franco Nero when he was subsequently asked to appear in "Viva la muerte... tua!"  Grin

I love Milian in this. The effect of his Spanglish is brilliant and I assume his Spitaliano has a similar effect on people watching in Italian (Drink, you should note that it's not Milian's voice that your are hearing in "The Big Gundown")


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« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2017, 03:25:28 AM »

You sound like Franco Nero when he was subsequently asked to appear in "Viva la muerte... tua!"  Grin

I love Milian in this. The effect of his Spanglish is brilliant and I assume his Spitaliano has a similar effect on people watching in Italian (Drink, you should note that it's not Milian's voice that your are hearing in "The Big Gundown")



I always watched it in German.

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« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2017, 09:48:03 AM »

I always watched it in German.
Wow, how is the German dub? (and is there only one?). Would it be worth having even if one had to make a separate purchase after already getting the English/Italian disc?

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« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2017, 10:00:43 AM »

Not the greatest of actors but a distinct individual with the right moves at the right times. Although he was out of focus for some time, will be sadly missed.


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« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2017, 10:30:53 AM »

Wow, how is the German dub? (and is there only one?). Would it be worth having even if one had to make a separate purchase after already getting the English/Italian disc?

The German dub? You don't speak German, do you?

There are indeed 2 dubs, a terrible one for a shorter version, and an ok but also not that good one for the uncut version. The German discs so far are not great as far as I know, but the one I have does the job for the moment. I think it is only a NTSC to Pal transfer of an older Blue Underground DVD.
A German Blu was meanwhile released, but I read some not so favorable comments about it.


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« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2017, 03:13:37 PM »

I always watched it in German.

I think it's ok to praise an actor's performance even if you only watched them dubbed by someone else, but it's a little harsh to critique someone under the same circumstances. Milian pulls off a fantastic performance here - I think Nero probably knew it at the time too!

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« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2017, 03:24:15 PM »

Not the greatest of actors

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« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2017, 03:46:36 PM »

I think it's ok to praise an actor's performance even if you only watched them dubbed by someone else, but it's a little harsh to critique someone under the same circumstances. Milian pulls off a fantastic performance here - I think Nero probably knew it at the time too!

I don't think so.

Milian did too often too much, but not in a way I like. I like the overacting of other actors, but rarely by Milian. Milian became worse in the Spags he made with every more Spag he made. He was good in the early days of the genre, and hard to swallow later on.
He did not impress me either in later films I saw with him. Like the one with Antonioni.

Here in Germany only people who prefer Italian genre cinema know him, the rest not. He's no Franco Nero.

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« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2017, 08:41:31 PM »

To be honest, I never pay that much attention to actors anyway. I'm more drawn to watch things because of the creative cast behind the scenes rather than those in front of the cameras (probably like many people on this forum). Having said that, great performances by actors are often inseparable from the contributions by those behind the scenes too.

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« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2017, 02:11:55 AM »

Yes, that's true

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« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2017, 10:41:21 AM »

I love Milian. I just wish he would have worked a lot more often with better directors as he did.
He overacted when directors let him do it, but even that didn't bother me: to me he came
across as a wild, hot-blooded, untamed, beautiful creature, his passion often jumped
at me when I saw him on the big screen.

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« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2017, 03:50:35 PM »

I love Milian. I just wish he would have worked a lot more often with better directors as he did.
He overacted when directors let him do it, but even that didn't bother me: to me he came
across as a wild, hot-blooded, untamed, beautiful creature, his passion often jumped
at me when I saw him on the big screen.

Agree, it's like the Tuco/Eli Wallach factor in GBU, some people just don't like the way Wallach portrayed Tuco, I'm sure it's the same thing with Milian.

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« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2017, 04:41:36 PM »

Then they don't have deep red blood running through their veins but beer or motor oil Smiley.

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« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2017, 07:39:36 PM »

Agree, it's like the Tuco/Eli Wallach factor in GBU, some people just don't like the way Wallach portrayed Tuco, I'm sure it's the same thing with Milian.

I have never heard anyone say a negative word about Wallach as Tuco.

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