NEW DIRECTORS CUT

[drinkanddestroy]

Hahahaha, D&D is gonna hurt himself trying to figure out which of the new releases to buy:

no, I'm definitely getting the  biggest best baddest one.

Yeah, I knew the 269-minute rumor was too good to be true. They'll save that for the NEXT re-re-restoration. For now, the best we can get is teh 251-minute version from Cannes. All we can hope for is that the new scenes will look decent.

[dave jenkins]

Lots of chatter on the boards about potential compression issues. If there are 2 BD discs on the deluxe release, one for each version of the film, that means a single disc holding a 251 min. film. There could be artifacts out the kazoo on this--never mind the quality of the restored footage.

[Derbent 5000]

suppose good news that warner finally decide to release the movie in extended form 251 min what about other 18 min the Marty Scorsese were talking about and we don't know what transfer look like I hope not the one that got released in Italy which is terrible and main concern is extended scenes state what they would look like in US release and one more thing Blu-ray cover art cover art looks terrible they might want to consider to change   

[Derbent 5000]

I think Warner Bros releasing the Blu-ray to make fans happy, but I wouldn't be surprise in a few years there will be another release with complete version I hope

[Derbent 5000]

At Cannes Film Festival press release in pdf here http://www.festival-cannes.com/assets/Image/Direct/045945.pdf was mention that new version is 4 hours 15 min 255 min, but Blu-ray released in Italy 4 hours 11 min 251 min which is US prepping to release on September 30 so there is great deal of confusion of runtime versions

[dave jenkins]

here is what restore transfer should look and I hope US transfer should look like

Source?

[Derbent 5000]

Source?

I found it online can't recall where it was back in 2013

[Derbent 5000]

Italian BD deleted scenes looks poor it's dark greenish but somehow watchable, except scenes the cemetery, limo chauffer driver, and eve meeting noodles, Martin Scorsese mention in press release that they couldn't find original negatives yet of the deleted scenes, only element were available discarded strips of working positives that has been badly preserved, since Cannes premiere movie was withdrawn for further restoration but we'll see upon US BD hope deleted scenes will look descent then on Italian BD

I hope the original negatives of missing scenes turns out some where one day, and maybe even with more deleted scenes we just have to pray wait and hope

[drinkanddestroy]

suppose good news that warner finally decide to release the movie in extended form 251 min what about other 18 min the Marty Scorsese were talking about and we don't know what transfer look like I hope not the one that got released in Italy which is terrible and main concern is extended scenes state what they would look like in US release and one more thing Blu-ray cover art cover art looks terrible they might want to consider to change   

have you ever heard of a comma? of a period?  of writing something in a way that readers should be able to understand it easily? 

[drinkanddestroy]

Taking another quick look at the comparisons at caps-a-holic:

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/multi_comparison.php?disc1=2737&disc2=2738&cap1=25236&cap2=25251&art=full&image=11&hd_multiID=296&action=1&lossless=#vergleich


  

these comparison caps are between the American WB blu-ray, and which Italian version? is it the Italian version currently out, the one that is 229 minutes; or is it the new version that is 251 minutes?

When I compared the screencaps, to me, in most of the shots the WB version is definitely superior. The colors in the WB version look much more realistic (and btwm they look much more red) whereas in the Italian version, the colors look washed out, much darker (browner?) that they would realistically be.
Of course, that does NOT mean that the WB version is the more accurate one; maybe Leone wanted the washed-out brown look, especially for the 1920's scenes. Actually, as I am writing this, I seem to recall Frayling (in STDWD) quoting Leone saying he went for brown colors in the 1920's scenes; but I am too lazy to go check the book now. So, if he was going for a sepia-like look and have muted, washed-out color to evoke the era, then maybe the Italian version is the correct one (or at least closer to correct) ; but if you're looking for correct colors, then IMO the WB version is preferable.... Again, the WB definitely is redder, so I guess we now have to go through the same discussion all over again that we've been having recently RE: GBU. I dropped out of that discussion; I may have to drop outta this one now.... Okay, insasmuch as I don't wanna get myself stressed over something that is just speculation until the disc is actually released and available for our home-viewing pleasure, I think I am gonna try to stay out of these color debates until I can actually watch the new disc for myself  

[noodles_leone]

I'm preparing a fan edit with the RIGHT colors. Here are the grading tests I did on a few shots. The picture may look a bit more square than what we're use to watch but I added some details on the top and bottom so that it's easier to share on Instagram:

Deborah dancing (she now beautifully stands out against the smoky background):


The shot of the poster (the Manhattan Bridge looks gorgeous with the new grading):


After the rape (Milchan's face has never looked better with such vivid colors):


Final smile (I also removed the weird filter between the lense and Noodles' face. Everything's clean now!):


The cousin of a guy whose name is close to the one of another man who was friend with the casting assistant who almost worked on OUATIA personally supervised the new grading so we're good.

[noodles_leone]

 

(No, I DIDN'T call DJ a dog)

[dave jenkins]

I'm sooooo glad you can find ways to thoroughly amuse yourself. Work is a little slow now, I take it?

[noodles_leone]

Work is a little slow now, I take it?

Actually not at all but I'm in the middle of terrifyingly boring things: days of screen replacements (Looks like this, but for DAYS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRLGH3iFwX4 + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqn6YmfZl5Y) and an afternoon of administrative bullshit.

[roger_d]

Title: Once Upon a Time in America: Extended Director's Cut
Starring: Robert de Niro
Released: 30th September 2014
SRP: $34.99, $19.98, $17.97

Further Details:
Warner Brothers Home Entertainment sent over information on the restored, extended director's cut of Sergio Leone's ultimate epic, Once Upon a Time in America(including 22 minutes of additional footage). The Blu-ray Combo Pack version (Blu-ray/Digital Copy) will include a 32-page booklet with rare photos and production notes, along with a Blu-ray copy of the theatrical cut. There will also be single disc Blu-ray and two disc DVD version that will not include the theatrical cut. All versions will include excerpts from a Sergio Leone documentary.