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« Reply #150 on: June 22, 2009, 05:13:05 PM »

Ok gonna dust this topic off once again since we have some new road apples

Of the following lists the A list contains SW's that In my personal opinion deliver
that equal or almost up there quality. These films are worth getting and being part of your collection.

The "A" list of "Must Haves" so far in descending order (descending in quality from Leone the top five are very good are all equal, Sollima's Big Gundown being almost a Leone clone):

The Big Gundown (great)
The Mercenary (the best)
Companero''s (great)
Death Rides A Horse (great)
A Bullet For The General (great)
Run Man Run (great)
The Great Silence (great)
Cemetery Without Crosses (good)
Keoma (good)
Tepepa (good)
Day Of Anger (flawed)
Face To Face (flawed)
The Hellbenders (flawed)


The "B" List (worthy efforts):

A Man Called Sledge (good but cut)
A Minute To Pray A Second to Die (ok but cut)
Mannaja A Man Called Blade (ok)
Blindman (tongue in cheek but inpsired lunacy)
And God Said To Cain (ok a spaghetti/suspence/gothic film that feels more like a made for TV film)

The not sure if they are classified as Spaghetti Westerns but likely Euro Westerns partially shot in Almeria List:


Chato's Land (great Bronson & Palance the international cut shows the rape scene and with it missing you miss the impact of the reason that Palance quits the chase)
Villa Rides (great)
Renegade (great)
Red Sun (good but flawed)
The Hunting Party (good almost great)
Shalako (ok)
100 Rifles (ok, probably the best Western for Brown, Reynolds & Welch)
China 9 Liberty 37 (good Fabio Testi, Warren Oates, Jenny Agutter)

In a class by itself but has SW influences

El Topo (good but very flawed)

To rent first before you buy if curious List*:

The Specialist (good, but way off the mark and very seriously flawed)
Man Pride Vengeance ("Carmen" Spaghetti Style not really a Western)
The Grand Duel (flawed)
Four of the Apocalypse (flawed)
El Condor (good for Van Cleef's performance check this one out for that, and the full frontal of Marianna Schell)
Django (cool parts, dopey parts, dopey dubbing)
Price of Power (flawed)
Navajo Joe (flawed)
Four of the Apocalypse (flawed)
Beyond the Law (hohum)
Doc ( crappy VHS version some atmosphere but little else really need to see the new DVD release and revise )
Kill & Pray (dopey)
Captain Apache (the worst so far)
A Bullet For Sandoval (crappy VHS need to see again)
I am Sartana your Angel of Death (too dopey for me)
Bad Man's River (horrible)
White Comache (wose than Captian Apache)
Sabata (thinking of if as an Italian Wild Wild West is the right frame of mind to watch this in you could probably say the same for the Sartana series)


*This list could probably go up into the 100''s but I''m not going to be inclined to watching many off the wall SW''s, if you drop in on the SW''s board you''ll hear about a lot of obscure titles.

Again Feel free to add or comment.

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« Reply #151 on: June 23, 2009, 04:28:59 PM »

anyone have the new updated version?
would be interested what he has to sat , if anything, about the restored GBU & BIG GUNDOWN

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« Reply #152 on: June 23, 2009, 04:56:29 PM »

I have both updated versions of GBU with the cut scenes as extras in Italian and the SE Box set with the added scenes redubbed by Eastwood & Wallach. I like the additions but don't like the dubbing they should have used voice actors for Wallach & Eastwood also (but I do remember Kermit saying they could have electronically altered their voices to sound young again by some method he explained) I also don't like the new 5:1 Dolby they should have stayed with the original gunshots.

As far as The Big Gundown I have FrancoCleefs restoration, so I'm not familiar with the new The Big Gundown release.

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« Reply #153 on: June 24, 2009, 04:13:44 PM »

The "A" list of "Must Haves" so far in descending order (descending in quality from Leone the top five are very good are all equal, Sollima's Big Gundown being almost a Leone clone):

I'd promote Navajo Joe, Price of Power, and possibly Django and The Specialist, to the A-list over Face To Face, Hellbenders, and possibly Keoma and Day of Anger.

How about some Colizzis?

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« Reply #154 on: June 24, 2009, 07:57:46 PM »

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I'd promote Navajo Joe, Price of Power, and possibly Django and The Specialist, to the A-list over Face To Face, Hellbenders, and possibly Keoma and Day of Anger.

How about some Colizzis?

Not on my A list.

Navajo Joe has Navajos who traditionally live in hogans living in tipis, "Navajo" joe himself wears a leather outfit that resembles a bandleaders costume. He should be dressed in traditional cotton clothing, who the F wears leather in the Southwest?Huh For anybody who knows anything about Native Americans in the Southwest the film becomes a Farce. The best thing its got going for it is Morricone's score

Price of Power I don't care for Gemma, he reminds me too much of American actor Audie Murphy, the film has some good sequences but as a whole as a concept about the kennedy assassination it just doesn't grab me.

Django is an important film for the genre, but it just gets a bit too dopey for me, don't care for the dubbing or the sawdust quicksand, or the red hoods.

The Specialist also has some good parts but some very bad parts, don't need hippies, don't believe the magical mithril bullet deflecting vest, and I'm insulted by the shot of the castle at the end.

Colizzi's I think I've just seen one it was ok but not really A list not very memorable to me anyway.

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« Reply #155 on: June 26, 2009, 05:14:16 PM »

I have both updated versions of GBU with the cut scenes as extras in Italian and the SE Box set with the added scenes redubbed by Eastwood & Wallach. I like the additions but don't like the dubbing they should have used voice actors for Wallach & Eastwood also (but I do remember Kermit saying they could have electronically altered their voices to sound young again by some method he explained) I also don't like the new 5:1 Dolby they should have stayed with the original gunshots.

As far as The Big Gundown I have FrancoCleefs restoration, so I'm not familiar with the new The Big Gundown release.

i meant does the BOOK have any comments

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« Reply #156 on: June 26, 2009, 05:51:08 PM »

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i meant does the BOOK have any comments

You mean "A Leone Lover's Guide To Other Spaghetti Westerns"?

I haven't written it yet,  Cheesy Afro

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« Reply #157 on: June 26, 2009, 07:33:40 PM »

CJ, where do you put John the Bastard?

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« Reply #158 on: June 26, 2009, 08:03:10 PM »

Rent first and make up your own mind  Afro

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« Reply #159 on: June 26, 2009, 08:14:23 PM »

You mean "A Leone Lover's Guide To Other Spaghetti Westerns"?

I haven't written it yet,  Cheesy Afro


watt dont you fookin'understand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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