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« : June 26, 2021, 04:25:56 PM »

In a recent podcast, Quentin Tarantino took issue with Leone's final film:
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I talked myself into thinking it was a masterpiece when it came out and walked around for twenty years talking about it like a masterpiece. Now I don't feel that it is that.
He cited "weird casting choices that don't quite work, and some dramatic stuff that doesn't work" as the principal reasons for his reassessment of the film. However, he was careful to state he thought Robert De Niro was "fantastic" in it.

Tarantino also said he saw the film multiple times when it was first released, both in the truncated studio version, and in Leone's preferred cut. He claims to be able to defend both versions of the film.
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There are things about the studio cut that I actually like more than the Leone cut, and things in the Leone cut I like more than in the studio cut.

QT's remarks came at the tail end of a podcast he did for the New Beverly Cinema, the Hollywood cinema he owns and programs for. The theme of the podcast was favorite final films by directors with substantial careers. The hosts, knowing QTs tastes, were surprised when Once Upon a Time in America, the final film of the great Italian director Sergio Leone, wasn't one of the titles chosen. When asked about it, QT made the responses given above.

The podcast was posted on June 1, 2021. To hear the podcast in full go to https://purecinemapodcast.libsyn.com/ The Leone comments begin at about the three-hour-and-six-minute mark.



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« #1 : June 30, 2021, 02:49:41 AM »

He must have changed his opinion in the past few years, because he seemed pretty admirative in the little doc that's on the different video editions.


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« #2 : June 30, 2021, 10:29:00 AM »

The only QT opinion that's permanent is the one about his own self-regard.



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« #3 : July 03, 2021, 01:02:21 PM »

I don't know what I found more surprising, the OUATIA diss or that he hasn't seen Terror in a Texas Town.

OUATIA is not a perfect movie the way that GBU and OUATITW are, but it is one of the greatest cinematic achievements -- flaws be damned.



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« #4 : July 03, 2021, 05:39:47 PM »

OUATIA is not a perfect movie the way that GBU and OUATITW are, but it is one of the greatest cinematic achievements -- flaws be damned.
Well, YEAH. QT is just being petulant. He junks OUATIA in favor of 5 other vastly inferior films just so he can parade his knowledge of lesser-known flicks. What an ass.



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« #5 : September 30, 2021, 07:16:12 PM »

I wouldn?t bash anyone?s opinion of this movie. Whether you think it?s the greatest movie ever or extremely overrated or anywhere in between, I can understand any opinion of it.

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« #6 : September 30, 2021, 07:41:04 PM »

It's a seriously flawed film.
Even the score is a disappointment.
I prefer the studio cut also!

If the director was Sergio Provolone nobody would even discuss it.

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« #7 : September 30, 2021, 11:41:25 PM »

It's a seriously flawed film.
Even the score is a disappointment.
I prefer the studio cut also!

If the director was Sergio Provolone nobody would even discuss it.

Wooooooooah

I can agree that it?s flawed

I can?t agree with the criticism of the score

As to the studio cut, I?ve thankfully never seen it so I can?t comment on it


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« #8 : October 01, 2021, 09:31:29 AM »

Tarantino seems to be going out of his way to be a petulant ass in recent years. I guess I'd rather him dissing Leone than slurring Bruce Lee or expounding on the glory of shooting women's feet.

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« #9 : October 01, 2021, 02:27:50 PM »

The media has decided that QT is the arbiter of what's cool; what's good.
Previously, it was Scorcese.

I don't need or want either of them to be set up as the dictator of fashion.


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« #10 : October 01, 2021, 02:28:31 PM »

Wooooooooah

I can agree that it?s flawed

I can?t agree with the criticism of the score

As to the studio cut, I?ve thankfully never seen it so I can?t comment on it

In your heart you know I'm right. 😎


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« #11 : October 01, 2021, 02:31:30 PM »

The only good part of the film is.the Lower East side segment.
In the studio.cut, it's the first part of the film.
The whole flashback structure is.discarded


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« #12 : October 02, 2021, 05:18:40 AM »

I cannot believe I?m wasting my time defending Mank in another thread while some philistine is attacking the holy grail of cinema here.


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« #13 : October 02, 2021, 10:04:57 AM »

Yeah, who started this worthless thread?



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« #14 : October 02, 2021, 02:32:45 PM »

I cannot believe I?m wasting my time defending Mank in another thread while some philistine is attacking the holy grail of cinema here.

YOU can't believe it?!!
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