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« #15 : March 26, 2024, 07:37:10 AM »

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Sehr gut !  Ich verstehe !


So in Spiel Mir das Lied von Tod, what does Frank say to young Harmonica as he shoves the harmonica into his mouth?  "Spiel mir das lied von tod", or something else ?

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« #16 : March 26, 2024, 11:47:21 AM »




So in Spiel Mir das Lied von Tod, what does Frank say to young Harmonica as he shoves the harmonica into his mouth?  "Spiel mir das lied von tod"

Exactly that.

It's so much better than what Frank says in the original version.

The best Leone line that Leone never invented.


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« #17 : March 27, 2024, 07:22:03 AM »

Agree: I would've better liked "Play me the song of death". 

But English-speaking audience wouldn't know it was his brother or who was being hanged.  Did the German version refer to that earlier in the flashback?

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« #18 : March 27, 2024, 09:39:39 AM »

No, here in Germany we all thought it was his father, cause of the big age difference.

Actually I have no idea why it is not his father?


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« #19 : March 28, 2024, 06:29:59 AM »

No, here in Germany we all thought it was his father, cause of the big age difference.

Actually I have no idea why it is not his father?
Father might make more sense. 

Of course, even if it was not a relative, could still be haunting Harmonica for decades...

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« #20 : March 28, 2024, 08:06:36 AM »

IMO, regardless which line you prefer Frank said, as a movie title, ?Once Upon a Time in the West? is much better.


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« #21 : March 29, 2024, 02:19:58 AM »

IMO, regardless which line you prefer Frank said, as a movie title, ?Once Upon a Time in the West? is much better.

Yes, but only in the context of the film's deeper ambitions.

And maybe is does not sound that well in the English translation, but believe me, here in Germany this sounds incredibly good. And surely was one reason for the film's enormous success here. Over 13 mio sold tickets compared to 1,15 for GBU.
I don't like most of the German titles for westerns, they are mostly very generic or even really bad, but this one sounds pretty good, and works well in the context of the film. And to call the death rattle going through a harmonica a song of death, is as bizarre as it is great. I 'm sure Leone would have loved that, if it had been his idea.


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« #22 : April 08, 2024, 05:24:44 PM »

No, here in Germany we all thought it was his father, cause of the big age difference.

Actually I have no idea why it is not his father?

"Hello. My name is Harmonica. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

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« #23 : April 08, 2024, 05:56:51 PM »

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« #24 : April 08, 2024, 10:49:02 PM »

''Spiel mir das lied von tod'' sounds over-the-top to me.

It often happens with various kinds and types of translators/translations - they try to 'better the original' - while most often than not accomplishing the exact contrary.

Maybe it sounds better in German and to German speaking people, but overall, psychologically - in terms of Frank's character and his development throughout teh story (if we can call it as such) - seems out of place.

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« #25 : April 09, 2024, 12:58:41 AM »

"Hello. My name is Harmonica. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

No explanation was needed, as the age difference gave all the info you need. As long as no other explanation is given it is a natural assumption.

No, the question is why OuTW did not have instead the line: Make your loving father happy" ?



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« #26 : April 09, 2024, 06:48:47 AM »

here in Germany we all thought it was his father, cause of the big age difference.

Actually I have no idea why it is not his father?



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