Planet Terror (2007) - 5.85/10Death Proof (2007) - 6.55/10 they're sold as ''grindhouse'', there's no false advertising.
I prefer DP by a couple of degrees
Well, DEATH PROOF is about as false advertising as you can get. That movie is NOWHERE near the type, nor style of movie it claims to emulate. I cannot think of ONE SINGLE exploitation movie (I REALLY HATE that grindhouse word now. Hardly anyone ever used it before save for those who actually knew what it was or had seen some of the movies) that features stuck up bitches chatterboxing for an hour before the audience is introduced to ANOTHER group of giggling girls who sit around and talk for what seems like forever before the big car chase. I had even forgotten Kurt Russell was even in this flick. Horrible move that deserved what it got. PLANET TERROR was not much better, but it came the closest to emulating that type of film. Furthermore, for the cost of this overblown garbage, you could have shot several dozen or more TRUE exploitation pictures. And from the looks of this retarded "war" movie from "that director who shall remain nameless", it appears it will be another gabfest. If it doesn't bomb, I will be really surprised.
taking stuff out of context is really amazing.
On the other hand, to make an hommage to grindhouse movies doesn't mean to make a grindhouse movie. PT and DP both took what they wanted from real grindhouse movies and used them in another way, which is still an hommage to these movies, but they did something else. Which is not that terrible, is it? I mean, you may have hated these 2 movies, but what's the point of saying they're not grindhouse?
I think I know how to recognize an explo flick but most people (here and elsewhere) obviously don't, so why not give a basic formula so that people can understand why is Grindhouse not (pure) exploitation. You said a couple of times it's not, but never why.
NIGHTMARE CITY
Obviously you don't and I think I explained why elsewhere in this thread. If that list I posted appears alien to you, than no further explanation will aid you. I think I explained enough. Yet again, people don't reeeeeaaaad. I said PT came the closest, but the overblown second half was nothing but a gab fest. I didn't care for either one, but RR's was the better of the two if I were (forced) to pick one.
but RR's was the better of the two if I were (forced) to pick one.
Because DP is not! And countless others who KNOW WHAT THOSE MOVIES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE WILL TELL YOU THE SAME THING. Again, people don't READ obviously.....PLANET TERROR was not much better, but it came the closest to emulating that type of film.Outside of MAYBE ten minutes of delivering on what the title promises, DP is still left with 100 minutes of QT's usual self absorbed referential yappin' to let the audience know once more that he knows about obscurities that the average person doesn't know and really doesn't give two shits about. I didn't like the movie, you obviously did. I didn't even pay to see it in the theater because it looked like crap from the commercial and I had a feeling it was gonna bomb because those kinds of films are a niche and the generation today isn't interested in anything over ten years old. They were gambling on Q's name alone and it didn't work. If you want to see what a REAL exploitation movie should be (then again, maybe you don't), check out some of these. Some are classics, some are good, some are average to mediocre and some are just plain bad, but most are remembered for certain qualities....
Come on, did you really think that they were trying to make us believe that they were actually missing reels in both movies?
I know why those movies are exploitation flicks but most people don't. That list don't mean nothing to them. I bet they think exploitation is a genre of its own.