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« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2004, 05:21:04 AM »

All sources seem to say this was his debut as sole director. Like I said before, it's not instantly recognisable as Leone-esque like all his other films, but it IS very good. As ancient-times slave revolt films go, I actually preferred it to Spartacus. The special effects were pretty amazing too, considering this was 1961.

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« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2004, 04:16:09 AM »

he was the sole director of colossus of rhodes. according to frayling's book he was the co-director of the last days of pompeii (previously directed by mario bonnard who then fell ill i think) and then directed some scenes of sodom and gomorrah (which had been directed by robert aldrich) though his name isnt credited for some reason. my advice is check out www.allmovie.com and find the sergio leone page. its a pretty thorough film website. Cheesy

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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2004, 05:58:36 AM »

There were about dozen Sword n Sandal Films he was Assistent Director on. One with Robert Wise.
Including Last Days of Pompeii, he took over the film when Mario Bonnard fell ill. who was a close friend of Sergio's father, And one of many mentors to Leone

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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2004, 09:52:30 AM »

yeah, i looked it up and my sources say you guys are right... i must have looked at other "sword and sandal" movies that he had been assistant director or whatever.

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« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2004, 02:47:27 PM »

I think Sergio was on the second unit of Ben Hur also he filmed the the famous chariot race sequence with Yakima Kanute.

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« Reply #20 on: February 29, 2004, 02:49:13 AM »

According to IMDB:


Second Unit Director or Assistant Director - filmography
(1970s) (1960s) (1950s) (1940s)

Mio nome è Nessuno, Il (1973) (second unit director) (uncredited)
... aka Lonesome Gun (1974) (USA)
... aka Mein Name ist Nobody (1973) (West Germany)
... aka Mon nom est personne (1973) (France)
... aka My Name Is Nobody (1974) (USA)


Sodom and Gomorrah (1962) (second unit director) (uncredited)
... aka Last Days of Sodom and Gomorrah, The (1963) (USA)
... aka Sodoma e Gomorra (1962) (Italy)
... aka Sodome et Gomorrhe (1962) (France)


Ben-Hur (1959) (second unit director) (uncredited)
... aka Ben-Hur: A Tale of the Christ (1959) (USA: alternative title)
Ultimi giorni di Pompei, Gli (1959) (assistant director)
... aka Últimos días de Pompeya, Los (1960) (Spain)
... aka Last Days of Pompeii, The (1960) (USA)
... aka Letzten Tage von Pompeji, Die (1959) (West Germany)
Figlio del corsaro rosso, Il (1959) (assistant director)
... aka Son of the Red Corsair (1963) (USA)
... aka Son of the Red Pirate, The (1963) (USA)
Nun's Story, The (1959) (assistant director) (uncredited)
Quai des illusions (1959) (assistant director)
... aka Legge mi incolpa, La (1959) (Italy)
Afrodite, dea dell'amore (1958) (assistant director)
... aka Aphrodite, Goddess of Love (1958) (USA)
... aka Slave Women of Corinth (1958)
Maestro, El (1957) (assistant director)
... aka Maestro, Il (1958) (Italy)
... aka Teacher and the Miracle, The (1961) (USA)
Mi permette, babbo! (1956) (assistant director)
... aka Allow me, Daddy! (1956)
Helen of Troy (1956) (second unit director)
... aka Elena di Troia (1956) (Italy)
Ladra, La (1955) (assistant director)
... aka Anges aux mains noires, Les (1955) (France)
Hanno rubato un tram (1954) (assistant director)
Questa è la vita (1954) (assistant director)
... aka Of Life and Love (1954) (International: English title: informal literal title)
Tradita (1954) (assistant director)
... aka Concert of Intrigue (1954) (USA)
... aka Night of Love (1954) (USA)
Frine, cortigiana d'Oriente (1953) (assistant director)
Tratta delle bianche, La (1953) (assistant director)
... aka Girls Marked Danger (1954) (USA)
... aka Girls Marked for Danger (1954) (USA: first title)
... aka Ship of Condemned Women (1954) (USA)
... aka White Slave Trade, The (1953)
Uomo, la bestia e la virtù, L' (1953) (assistant director)
... aka Man Beast and Virtue (1953)
Folle di Marechiaro, Il (1952) (assistant director) (uncredited)
Jolanda la figlia del corsaro nero (1952) (assistant director)
... aka Jolanda, the Daughter of the Black Corsair (1952) (International: English title)
Tre corsari, I (1952) (assistant director)
... aka Three Corsairs (1952) (International: English title: literal title)
Quo Vadis? (1951) (second unit director)
Brigante Musolino, Il (1950) (assistant director) (uncredited)
... aka Outlaw Girl (1955) (USA)
Voto, Il (1950) (assistant director) (uncredited)
Taxi di notte (1950) (assistant director) (uncredited)
... aka Singing Taxi Driver (1950)


Forza del destino, La (1949) (assistant director) (uncredited)
... aka Force of Destiny, The (1949)
Trovatore, Il (1949) (assistant director) (uncredited)
Fabiola (1949) (assistant director) (uncredited)
... aka Fabiola (1949) (USA)
Leggenda di Faust, La (1948) (assistant director) (uncredited)
... aka Faust and the Devil (1950) (USA)
... aka Strange Life of Doctor Faust, The (1948)
Ladri di biciclette (1948) (assistant director) (uncredited)
... aka Bicycle Thief, The (1949) (USA)
... aka Bicycle Thieves (1948) (UK)
Rigoletto (1946) (assistant director) (uncredited)
 
 

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« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2004, 01:12:47 PM »

Managed to watch it last night…
Visually It has more Leone style in it than ive read in most sources. Mostly the shots around the Colossus statue have very dynamic camera work, elevated shots between the legs & slow camera pans of the bay around the Greek Monument.
But the main structure of the film is standard Sword & Sandal fair. Place camera - shoot action.
It has Leone’s humour.. A Sleeping Senator (with cotton wool in his ears trying to block out a thunder storm) sleeps through a whole fist fight with Dario in adjacent room, until one of the rebels is thrown onto a large gong next to his bed.

Interesting shot at the end of the movie during the earthquake. Shot a disserted Rhodes city street uncannily looks like a dusty frontier we usually connect Leone with.  




I went back and read a little in Something to do with Death last night on Colossus. Leone was quoted  'if i was given a bit more time it would of made a more personal film. But essentially I did it for the money.'

Also its a great movie in my opinion. Wonderful music by Angelo Francesco Lavagnino (did Last Days of Pompeii)

P.S. I did see this movie when I was about 10 years old.
……Wow first Leone movie I ever saw.

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« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2004, 06:29:58 AM »

strange as it may seem, having raised the topic...i am still yet to see colossus of rhodes. i am at university and got my bro to tape so ive got to wait until friday 19th march to see it

damnation!!! Undecided

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« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2004, 10:12:37 AM »

Finally saw colossus of rhodes today.
No real leone-ist style apparent apart from in the stand-off over the food poison!! (yes food poison) and the old man's earmuffs during the fight. the horse scenes are reminiscent of his westerns and the female characters remind me of consuela baxter from fistful of dollars for some reason. Bit of a political message apparent.
But generally very sword-and-sandal esque and sub-standard of a ben hur, quo vadis or spartacus.

Not a bad film but very average and nowhere near as good as anything he did afterwards.

But at least i can say ive seen every officially leone-directed film now!

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« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2004, 02:54:21 AM »

I got this dvd from France, although I knew there were no english subtitles. I watched it with italian audio and french subs, and did not understand much. The plot didn't seem to complicated, but I didn't understand as much as I probably should have (5 years of french at school). Would anyone care to give me slightly detailed synopsis? Then I might appreciate it more next time.

I also got the french dvd of The Last Days Of Pompei, with english audio. That was a surprisingly enjoyable film, extremely entertaining. My first meeting with peplum was quite successful. Then again, it was Leone.

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« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2004, 05:18:09 AM »

i found colossus of rhodes hard to understand even tho it woz in english...because its pretty crap. couple of flamboyant leone-esque scenes but essentially rubbish.

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« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2004, 12:41:59 AM »

Man... i've just recently been reading up on it a bit...

I would really love to get my hands on a widescreen english version of it... although i don't think it exists... i know there is a full screen vhs(which i may have to settle for) and a french widescreen version with italian and french dubs... does anyone know of a widescreen english version or where i can get my hands on one?


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« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2004, 03:36:56 AM »

ask this question here:

http://www.sartana.homestead.com/index.html

These guys have just about everthing and maybe Colossus too, lol.



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« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2004, 04:26:21 AM »

It does get showings on BBC2 in the Uk rarely. Afternoon movie type fair.

Managed to tape it last time. Feb 26th this year. MGM.. Very nice print, vibrant colors not much damage. widescreen. English.

http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=848;start=msg6927#msg6927

Unforunatly don't have the gear to burn DVD-Rs.
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« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2004, 06:40:27 AM »

g_c its interesting to see as a leone fan but its not freally a leone film as such, the style isnt really there apart from a couple of scenes. its pretty poor to be honest i think i watched it once on BBC2 and im not in a rush to see it again

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