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« on: February 15, 2005, 05:30:58 PM »

 Huh Can someone please help me?

In a 1971 interview, John Wayne referred to this movie as "distasteful.  It would have been a good picture without the gore.  Pictures go too far when they use that kind of realism." 

Does anyone know what film he was referring to?  In the same interview, he referred to "High Noon" as "un-American". 

I'm wondering if it was a Leone film - most likely not, but I'm not sure.  Thanks!

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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2005, 08:04:28 PM »

You know this is the third mention of this that I've seen in the last week fron three different sources, what gives?

Its The Wild Bunch, by the way?

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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2005, 06:57:11 AM »

It's a question in a movie trivia contest open to all New Jersey residents. 

Are you guessing it's "The Wild Bunch"?  It seems like that's what he would be referring to, but I can't find the interview anywhere.  Thanks for the help.

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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2005, 02:10:33 PM »

Not guessing, somebody found it in the interview.

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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2005, 11:44:47 PM »

when jamie sanchez finally gets his throat cut by the general after being dragged around town by a horse
in the wild bunch i wasn't differential. leone never resulted to these tactics.  his
earlier work with the rifleman american tv series was genus.
i can see how the duke would have a beef. and a camel.
i don't need to see hamberger coming out a man's back in slow motion.  i'd rather see a happy ending. like GB&U did. good for the digestion.

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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2005, 11:24:20 AM »

It would have been fascinating to see John Wayne in a Leone film - the logical extension of Leone's use of Ford's Monument Valley.

If it was a shock to audiences to witness Henry Fonda gunning down a young boy in OUATITW, then just think how they would have reacted to seeing Duke Wayne (or even Jimmy Stewart) as Frank?

Of course, it's almost impossible to believe that Wayne would have taken the role if he'd been offered it, or agreed to play it as written, but it's still fun to imagine...

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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2005, 02:49:24 PM »

I kind of think of John Wayne being to American actors what Leone was to Italian directors.

With all the stories of Leone, like him taking the guy's trenchcoat after he commited suicide, put Eli and Clint in danger, etc. and John Wayne with his arrogant attitude and his alchohol, they'd probably have killed eachother Sad

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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2005, 02:02:01 PM »

I personally just find the John Wayne films unwatchable.

Give me westerns spaghetti style anytime!

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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2005, 04:51:46 PM »

THANK U MARCO LEONE!!!!!!!

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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2005, 05:53:25 AM »

I've been watching alot of Wayne's Westerns at the moment and I do very much enjoy them. I must admit, apart from the Searchers, he really does just play himself (helped by the fact that almost every Western role tends to be the same type) but I must admit I do prefer Spag's. I wont say Hollywood westerns are better then the spags and vice versa because each owed a huge debt to the other (the spaghetti's towards Hollywood perhaps even more so). I love all Westerns and I do think Wayne is an apropriate American idol for the American Western, just as much as Ford, Hawks, Peckinpah, Fonda, Ladd and many more who will live on in cinematic mythology.

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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2008, 06:32:23 AM »

Interesting piece on Wayne as an icon vs. Wayne as an actor:
http://www.calendarlive.com/movies/la-et-wayne26-2008sep26,0,2126871.story

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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2008, 11:46:27 AM »

Interesting piece on Wayne as an icon vs. Wayne as an actor:
http://www.calendarlive.com/movies/la-et-wayne26-2008sep26,0,2126871.story

Thank you for this link jenkins.

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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2008, 03:29:44 AM »

Can't stand Wayne. Boring and a man who hated our Master. Plus hated Peckinpah. Plus he was a racist...

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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2008, 07:49:37 AM »

I feel Wayne was best in Red River.  OK in a few others.  By the time Big Jake arrived, there was incorporation of some spaghetti references (gun in shower, "continuing "who are you?"  "I thought you was dead").

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« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2008, 07:57:33 AM »

Yes, Red River was good. Although it would be even better with a darker ending...  Afro

How could he say bad about High Noon?  Sad

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