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« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2006, 09:44:03 PM »

I haven't commented on this??

Okay:

"The Quick and the Dead" is a very, very silly movie. 

Its supposed to be a silly spaghetti western. Its not even supposed to parody Leone. It is a homage to all the others out there.

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« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2006, 11:46:29 PM »

  I like parts of this movie, but it seems like they tried to fit every western cliche in just a 2-hour movie.  Parts of it worked, others didn't.

  Hackman is good, he's always good as the villain, and I like Russell Crowe's part as the preacher who is also a gunfighter.

  Good cast though overall, even if most of them are wasted.  And you get to see Woody Strode in his last movie.

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« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2006, 12:04:02 AM »

And you get to see Woody Strode in his last movie.

why didnt they use him more? He was in the beginning for two seconds(seriously!!!)

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« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2006, 12:08:13 AM »

  Yeah, if nothing else, it would have given this movie some more credibility.  I know if I saw a movie with a presence like Strode in it, I might be apt to pay a little bit more attention.

  Just think about all the westerns Strode was in.  OUATITW, The Professionals, Sgt. Rutledge, Liberty Valance, The Deserter, not to mention all his other roles, most notably Spartacus.  He's in the movie for maybe 20 minutes, but people always remember his performance, especially how he meets his end.

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« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2006, 12:23:43 AM »

  Yeah, if nothing else, it would have given this movie some more credibility.  I know if I saw a movie with a presence like Strode in it, I might be apt to pay a little bit more attention.

  Just think about all the westerns Strode was in.  OUATITW, The Professionals, Sgt. Rutledge, Liberty Valance, The Deserter, not to mention all his other roles, most notably Spartacus.  He's in the movie for maybe 20 minutes, but people always remember his performance, especially how he meets his end.


have you noticed in Gladiator movies all the black Gladiators get the same fishnet and spear? What the fuck is up with that?

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« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2006, 12:25:40 AM »

  Now, I'm not sure about this so don't quote me.  I think that gladiators were given certain weapons depending on what race or culture they were.  So in this case, african gladiators would get the trident and a net.  A Thracian, like Spartacus, would usually get that small shield and the gladius.

  I think that's right.  Check wikipedia or another online encyclopedia just to make sure.

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« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2006, 12:26:39 AM »

  Now, I'm not sure about this so don't quote me.  I think that gladiators were given certain weapons depending on what race or culture they were.  So in this case, african gladiators would get the trident and a net.  A Thracian, like Spartacus, would usually get that small shield and the gladius.

  I think that's right.  Check wikipedia or another online encyclopedia just to make sure.

you probably hit it right on the money. thanks. its been bugging me for years.

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« Reply #37 on: April 28, 2006, 07:18:39 AM »

it was a little too dopey for me. Cool
Yeah i gave up with is one after about 10 minutes!If i were Leone i'd be insulted by the likes of Stone and DeCrapio being used as a homage! Huh

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« Reply #38 on: April 28, 2006, 11:22:23 AM »

Yeah i gave up with is one after about 10 minutes!If i were Leone i'd be insulted by the likes of Stone and DeCrapio being used as a homage! Huh



IT WASNT A LEONE HOMAGE!!!!!!!!!


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« Reply #39 on: April 28, 2006, 05:25:12 PM »

Its supposed to be a silly spaghetti western. Its not even supposed to parody Leone. It is a homage to all the others out there.

And all of the Leone references were just coincidences then eh?

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« Reply #40 on: April 28, 2006, 06:09:27 PM »

This film both sucks and blows. I think I have seen it all, but never in the same sitting.

I've flushed stuff that's smells better down my toilet than this pile of horse muck.

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« Reply #41 on: April 28, 2006, 06:26:27 PM »

Yes this film is an insult, but I still find it fun to watch its not to be taken seriously just what it is an effort to copy a style.
What is lacking at the moment and may never be found again is a director such as Leone

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« Reply #42 on: April 28, 2006, 06:47:39 PM »

And all of the Leone references were just coincidences then eh?


Groggy if you had read my previous two posts I have mentioned this was a homage to the "other" Spaghetti westerns. NOT Leone. It is filled with references to "others".

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« Reply #43 on: April 28, 2006, 07:04:06 PM »

Not being especially familiar with "the others", I must admit that on the occasions I've seen this film, I thought it was constantly referencing Leone.

However, to actually qualify that statement, I'd have to go back and watch it again.

That is just never going to happen.

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« Reply #44 on: April 28, 2006, 07:10:04 PM »

Not being especially familiar with "the others", I must admit that on the occasions I've seen this film, I thought it was constantly referencing Leone.

However, to actually qualify that statement, I'd have to go back and watch it again.

That is just never going to happen.


well the only Leone homage I recall was the flash back sequence whic is similar to "Once upon a time in the west" but other than that the film...


 
... is mostly a homage to Gianfranco Parolini and  Giuliano Carmineo films.

*notice* the hand held acrobactics and weird camera positions that bombard the film.


Just recently I saw a spaghetti western called "Bandidos" and this film borrows a bit from that as well. Raimi did his homework. 

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