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Question: Do you prefer the Dollar trilogy to Leones 2nd "Once Upon a Time" trilogy or vice versa?
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« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2005, 04:47:53 AM »

I see what you are saying but for me Clints movies have the opposite effect, I think Clint's films are too sparce, most of the sets looked cheap. He does shoot a quicker paced film I'll say that. But GBU is fairly long in its extended English language version and because of its humorous plot it moves along quite nicely. OUTITW is very stylistic and its style is more than the sum of its parts (scenes embued with Leon's touch from various AW's).


Clint took the MWNN character and basically recycled him in various guises through most of his westerns. He never had a very strong villan (Van Cleef, Volonte), he never had an equal (Van Cleef), he never had a strong actor playing a "buddy" (Wallach). I've said this before with Leone films you always leave the table feeling like you've had a full meal.   

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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2005, 07:54:57 AM »

He does shoot a quicker paced film I'll say that.
Somehow Eastwood and "fast paced" doesn't really go together for me. Perhaps faster paced than some of Leone's stuff. Maybe. I still haven't seen Once Upon a Time in America. I would say the Leone films are well paced, just like I'd say Eastwood's movies are well paced.

I recently saw Duck You Sucker twice, just a few days apart, and I'd say the movie went at a good pace. It doesn't really feel as long as it is.

Having not seen OUATA, I can't answer this question. Once I have seen it, I'd still have to wait until I'd seen these movies some more. I've seen the Dollars movies mutiple times.

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« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2005, 08:46:19 PM »

I don't know. I agree with Chris on Eastwood and Fast pace not going together; the only thing fast about him is his draw and thinking. the way he's never in a hurry and turns his head slowly then moves his eyes in the direction his head is pointed. Sits down slowly, gets up slowly. drinks slowly you the idea.

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« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2005, 08:56:48 PM »

what makes leone's films so enjoyable w/ repeated vieweing ?  ennio morricone's music ? the sudden departure from the old formula into the realm of SWs ?

the conversation between mr. morton & frank. "sometimes these things happen in business".
the way frank's maner changes when sitting behind morton's desk. when sadhill is discovered from tuco's veiewpoint. clint, calmly walking down a street dodging bullets and returning fire like surgeon, with a business is business look he and tuco share.... col. mortimer stepping on the man w/ no name's boot ? QUATITW just gets better w/ each viewing. why ? music ? actione ?
camerawork ? the blend of all the above under a director w/ a vision beyond description up untill that time totaly unherd of.

if this happens w/ anybody else on the board share a favorite scene that enhances the next sequence of repeated viewing.  Grin 

  

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« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2005, 10:00:58 PM »

The music is right but you need to see the scene with it. The Trio in GBU and the final duel with Colonel Mortimer at the end of FFDM really do it for me. Same with the duel in OUTW.

The way Colonel Mortimer's face goes loose and tears well up in his eyes, the flashing images in The Trio in beat with the music. That's what makes SWs SWs

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« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2007, 04:49:10 PM »

I get more enjoyment out of watching The Dollars trilogy, but both Once Upon A Time films have so much more heart to them, and in the end, are better made films anyways in terms of acting and direction.

America > TGTBTU > West > FFDM > FOD

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« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2007, 04:51:02 PM »

I voted for the Once Upon a Time Trilogy.

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« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2007, 05:42:08 PM »

Why isn't this a choice between the 3 Dollars films and the 3 Once Upon a Time films?

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« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2007, 05:50:40 PM »

Why isn't this a choice between the 3 Dollars films and the 3 Once Upon a Time films?

I don't think rrpower saw DYS yet.

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« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2007, 05:54:37 PM »

DYS is considered a "Once Upon A Time" film? I never knew that. I'll have to rename the title now.

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« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2007, 06:00:10 PM »

DYS is considered a "Once Upon A Time" film? I never knew that. I'll have to rename the title now.

Yeah.

Leone's original title for the film was Once Upon a Time...The Revolution.

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« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2007, 08:03:39 PM »

To make it more interesting...

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« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2007, 12:01:55 AM »

DYS is considered a "Once Upon A Time" film? I never knew that. I'll have to rename the title now.


Not technically, because technically their not REALLY  a trilogy in the strictest sense. But for the sake of arguement put DYS up there.

And since it has been placed... my vote goes to it.

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« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2007, 07:23:29 AM »

Once Upon A Time In The West is one of my all time favourite films therefore the Once Upon A Time trilogy wins my vote, but the Dollars trilogy gets more viewing time. 

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« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2007, 06:48:21 AM »

I think if you judge them as trilogies, the dollars trilogy is definitely better, even though OUATITW is the greatest single film out of them. So, from the best to the least good, my list is as follows.

OUATITW > GBU > FAFDM > FOD > DYS > OUATIA

And yes, DYS should be in the list, because it, too, belongs to that loose sort-of-a trilogy with OUATITW and OUATIA. DYS was originally named "Once Upon A Time The Revolution".

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