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« Reply #345 on: November 09, 2017, 12:36:27 PM »

That's a shame since the English dub is pretty good.

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« Reply #346 on: November 10, 2017, 05:08:14 AM »

Only logical, business-wise, the US rights now recently being acquired by an American company...

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« Reply #347 on: November 10, 2017, 09:43:48 AM »

No, just a little bonus gift. Before that Blu-ray was announced, some friends at another forum were so tired
of those old DVD's that we all threw in some dineros and we scanned my 35mm print, just for us...

Now it is just interesting to compare the look of the two masters - the new one for the Blu-ray,
and my 1969 print, which represents the look the film had when it played in theaters. Because
you almost never get the old 35mm theatrical-print-look on modern HD masters.
Just a gag... (the print isn't very good: scratches and missing/damaged scenes. But the colors
are still all there.). It has slightly more picture information - but only due to the fact that I masked
my Apple ProRes to achieve maximum image information (don't caring if unwanted stuff pops up
occasionally at the image border area...)
Fabulous idea. This release just got interesting.  Afro

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« Reply #348 on: November 10, 2017, 10:58:24 AM »

Fabulous idea. This release just got interesting.  Afro

Yeh - no kidding! Mike's gonna make me fork out twice for the BD now. Once for this release, and once for the inevitable 4k release with English audio included. That is of course unless Mike can attach himself to any forthcoming English-friendly release...

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« Reply #349 on: November 10, 2017, 03:41:55 PM »

once you learn which label will release it, please let me know...

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« Reply #350 on: November 18, 2017, 01:09:42 PM »

I don't know if it has already been mentioned in this thread, but Film Movement is gonna release the 2k restoration sometime next year. Its still hard to find this in the United States until then...

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« Reply #351 on: December 13, 2017, 12:16:16 PM »

I don't know if it has already been mentioned in this thread, but Film Movement is gonna release the 2k restoration sometime next year. Its still hard to find this in the United States until then...

Here's the report:

https://www.screendaily.com/news/film-movement-acquires-1968-western-the-great-silence-exclusive/5123495.article

How do you know they won't be using the recent 4k remastering for the Blu-ray? (I know a BD is not 4k but the resolution of the remastering itself can affect the end product as it appears on the BD)

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« Reply #352 on: December 13, 2017, 01:34:41 PM »

Screen Daily says "Film Movement will bring The Great Silence to North American screens for the very first time".  That would be interesting; I have an older DVD, but Great Silence, original Django, and Five Man Army are three that even I never saw in the theater (didn't play in Arizona).

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« Reply #353 on: December 13, 2017, 03:32:42 PM »

Screen Daily says "Film Movement will bring The Great Silence to North American screens for the very first time".  That would be interesting; I have an older DVD, but Great Silence, original Django, and Five Man Army are three that even I never saw in the theater (didn't play in Arizona).

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« Reply #354 on: December 17, 2017, 06:51:34 PM »


But the colors are still all there.

Someone's posted a comparison here:

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/c_list.php?c=4427

However, as a SWDB member pointed out, the French DVD still seems to hold its own:

https://i.imgur.com/KevlztR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/01es9JZ.jpg

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« Reply #355 on: January 23, 2018, 06:44:48 PM »

WOW!  What did i just see?  I couldn't wait on the Film Movement release, so i went ahead and watched a bad copy on Youtube.  Where do i begin? Let me start by saying this is the RAWEST western i've ever seen. I don't count those Quentin Tarantino horrorfests disguised as westerns.  This was a RAW western.  THIS is what i've been looking for in the "spaghetti western" genre.  No parody or comedy here, in fact, its as real as you can get.

There is soo much going on here that i'm trying to slow down and get a grip on where i wanna start.  Lets start with " Silence ".  I'm not ashamed to say that Silence might be the greatest protagonist i've yet to see in a western.  I've always felt that Harmonica was the baddest, but Silence might be better.  In that bar scene, when Silence cleared it out, that was singlehandedly the greatest shoot out by one man i've yet to see.  I'm still shocked by it.

The Director, Sergio Corbucci did some things in this movie that even today, you might not see.  The interracial affair that Silence was in.  Back in 1968, that was huge.  The ending. The ending.  The ending alone is one of the rawest and pure things i've EVER seen on film.  This is a masterpiece.  No wonder people haven't heard of this film.  I love Leone, but this makes Leone look tame.   The film doesn't pretend, ANYWHERE, to be other than what it is.  It hits you hard.

Klaus Kinski. He graduated from just one of the gang, to a real Loco in this one.  Excellent performance.  Frank Wolff gave a great performance as the sheriff.  Vonetta Mcgee was excellent as Silence's lover.  Luis Pistilli was great as usual.  The casting was superb in this film.  The dubbing wasn't that bad either.

Like i said earlier, i saw a bad copy of this.  I can't wait till the Film Movement release.  I can tell the cinematography is gonna be great.  Speaking of that,  its plain as day that Quentin Tarantino got most of his elements for Hateful Eight straight from this movie here. The whole snow scenario.  The stage coach. The sheriff.  Loco and his gang.

The musical score was PERFECT.  Morricone did it AGAIN.  What really stands out here is the fact that its very different than the work he has done in other westerns, but similar at the same time.

This is a masterpiece. It IMMEDIATELY jumps into my top 5 western of all time.   I gotta let this marinate a little, lol. Whereas Death Rides a Horse is the closest to what Leone has done in that genre,  this movie here is on a different level.  Its different.  A masterpiece...


Cinematography- 2 points Even with a bad copy, i can tell the film is beautiful to look at.

Musical Score- 2 points.  Already one of my favorite Morricone scores.

Acting- 2 points.  It was soo good, i could overlook the dubbing.

Plot-  2 points. Excellent.  The plot was very similar to Death Rides A Horse.

Directing- 2 points.  Corbucci created a masterpiece.  

10 out of 10 and only the 4th film that i have given that rating to soo far. ( pre 1970).

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« Reply #356 on: January 24, 2018, 03:18:46 AM »

 Afro Afro Afro

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« Reply #357 on: January 24, 2018, 12:24:50 PM »

Corbucci created a masterpiece. 

Now you can watch "The Mercenary" again through a different lens  Wink

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« Reply #358 on: January 24, 2018, 04:07:00 PM »

Maybe the upcoming US blu-ray will include some of the supplements I produced for the German release...

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« Reply #359 on: January 24, 2018, 05:35:30 PM »

Maybe the upcoming US blu-ray will include some of the supplements I produced for the German release...

What are you talking about? I'm fairly new to the board...

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