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« Reply #300 on: December 04, 2008, 11:15:47 AM »

But Jinkies, the STYLE! It's noir because of the style!  Cheesy

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« Reply #301 on: December 04, 2008, 11:29:40 AM »

You are being facetious, of course, but in fact you see a lot of the stylistic elements associated with film noir in horror films of the 40s. Hangover Square and the Val Lewtons, for example, use expressionistic lighting, but they are still horror films. Calling such things horror-noir is just fudging.

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« Reply #302 on: December 04, 2008, 11:56:42 AM »

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« Reply #303 on: December 04, 2008, 12:08:35 PM »

This is the very point I make. My film class aggravates me to no end because many people in the class seem unable to think outside the box when it comes to classifying movies. My final paper for that class was in fact arguing that there's no way in hell that Mildred Pierce is a noir film.

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« Reply #304 on: December 04, 2008, 02:54:27 PM »

But Jinkies, the STYLE! It's noir because of the style!  Cheesy

Why do you have to drag this pointless debate into every thread dealing with noir, er, I mean 40s and 50s heist, thriller, PI, police prodecural, suspense, crime, mystery and femme fatale films?

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« Reply #305 on: December 04, 2008, 03:16:22 PM »

It was relevant to Jenkins' post.

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« Reply #306 on: December 04, 2008, 04:40:59 PM »

Thanx, CJ Afro

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« Reply #307 on: December 05, 2008, 05:41:08 AM »

Yeah, CJ, thanks. Could you find "The Line-up" for us, too?

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« Reply #308 on: December 05, 2008, 11:01:50 AM »

Yeah, CJ, thanks. Could you find "The Line-up" for us, too?

http://scootermoviesshop.com/sess/utn;jsessionid=1549396b98064ce/shopdata/index.shopscript

Slight rainbow effect in the background of a few scenes but a great transfer overall.

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« Reply #309 on: December 05, 2008, 11:27:04 AM »

Thanks, T_H. I guess you've posted that link before, but I'd forgotten about it.

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« Reply #310 on: December 05, 2008, 12:43:33 PM »

On the off-chance anyone's interested, I uploaded my final film essay to my blog:

http://nothingiswrittenfilm.blogspot.com/2008/12/mildred-pierce-and-question-noir.html

I do concede that noir exists in some shape or form, you'll notice. Wink

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« Reply #311 on: December 05, 2008, 01:46:34 PM »

It only exists in the minds of critics and the suckers they dupe. It can be a useful term of convenience when referring in passing to a 20-year block of Hollywood films; however, when it ceases to be useful, it should be discarded. What does Bound have to do with black & white films of the 40s and 50s? Why speak of films noir when you can use more useful and precise terms such as "PI films" or "50s police procedurals" ? What does The Maltese Falcon have in common with Odds Against Tomorrow? There may be a few points of similarity that can be educed, but surely it is more illuminating to enumerate the differences between such films.

Anyway, your paper/blog is well argued, although it suffers a bit from a confusion of categories (noir is neither a genre nor a style). Clearly, though, Mildred Pierce should be classified (if classifying is needed) as a woman's melodrama.

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« Reply #312 on: December 05, 2008, 02:17:20 PM »

You need to take that issue up with my film instructor. The selection of noir films he had was silly; I'm not sure I'd consider any of the three he screened a noir film at all. Gilda maybe, although I feel the relationship between Johnny and Gilda was the main focus of that movie. Bound is probably the closest storywise but it's definitely not a classic noir film. We watched a scene from Double Indemnity (which as a result I watched for myself) but that's about the only "true" noir. No Touch of Evil, no Maltese Falcon, no Third Man, no Wilder films - I found his selection to be ridiculous, hence my bitching in the paper about his selection of films. Perhaps that was his point, though.

I made the qualification to avoid argument with Tuco and others. That wasn't my intent, which was merely self-promotion with something relevant to the thread in question.

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« Reply #313 on: December 05, 2008, 08:05:04 PM »

Thanks, T_H. I guess you've posted that link before, but I'd forgotten about it.

no problem, DJ.

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« Reply #314 on: December 09, 2008, 11:21:45 AM »

CinemaRetro reviews the M Squad- The Complete Series box set:
http://www.cinemaretro.com/index.php?/archives/2686-LEE-MARVINS-M-SQUAD-THE-COMPLETE-SERIES-COMES-TO-DVD.html

I've never seen any of these, but I'd sure like to . .  .

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