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« #195 : June 25, 2007, 05:57:53 PM »

2. Give me a short yet detailed description of exactly what a noir is. I'm still not too sure yet myself.
You are not alone. There are a zillion definitions, as befits a mythical creature that no one has ever seen. For myself, I am content with "black & white American crime films of the 40s and 50s."



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« #196 : June 25, 2007, 06:02:26 PM »

That's usually what I go by, along with the gritty stylze, jazz, voice overs, and the cigarette smoke.

If that's the case, then how would I describe a neo-noir? I guess the same minus the black and white aspect.

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« #197 : June 25, 2007, 06:11:59 PM »

Post 50s crime films, usually in color, that capture some of the feel of the classic period.



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« #198 : June 29, 2007, 06:27:49 PM »

I just rewatched The Maltese Falcon - surprisingly, I loved it. I guess it's just one of those movies that takes the second viewing.

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« #199 : June 29, 2007, 07:35:49 PM »

I've never liked it. Too talky. The femme fatale looks like a boy.



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« #200 : June 29, 2007, 09:43:24 PM »

I always thought Maltese Falcon was overrated as well, but I only saw it once.


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Oh, rrpower, watch Elevator to the Gallows right frickin' now.  It's innovative and amazing... my favorite French Noir (I don't count Le Cercle Rouge as a Noir).  As for the music... I believe our member Sanjuro put it best when he said, "Miles Davis' score is a miracle."

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« #201 : June 29, 2007, 09:46:21 PM »

I always thought Maltese Falcon was overrated as well, but I only saw it once.


You're kidding me!


I love that movie. One of the best noir.....but then again, I haven't seen that much noir.


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« #202 : June 29, 2007, 09:49:47 PM »

You're kidding me!


I love that movie. One of the best noir.....but then again, I haven't seen that much noir.

Never said it was bad, just overrated. 

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« #203 : June 29, 2007, 09:59:10 PM »

Never said it was bad, just overrated. 

I know, but I still don't think it's overrated.


Anything with Humphrey Bogart, Sydney Greenstreet, AND Peter Lorre is a classic.


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« #204 : June 30, 2007, 01:44:20 AM »

I love that movie. One of the best noir.....but then again, I haven't seen that much noir.

I've seen a fair amount, and place this among my personal favorites. What it lacks in blackness and grit, it makes up in wit and storyline. Just a fun flick all around, sporting an excellent cast.

Speaking of the excellent cast, I was just watching The Velvet Touch earlier and came to the realization of just how much I dig Sydney Greenstreet.



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« #205 : July 01, 2007, 11:54:04 AM »

Out of the Past - 9/10

Now that's what I call a stylish noir.

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« #206 : July 01, 2007, 04:16:37 PM »

Then why not give it a stylish "10"?



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« #207 : July 01, 2007, 05:08:32 PM »

I rarely even gives a 9/10 ...but a ten is possible, since I suck at following complex film-noir and it usually takes two viewings for me to really appreciate them (see The Maltese Falcon).

I kind of lost what was going on at some points during the second half of the story when they come ...out of the past.

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« #208 : July 04, 2007, 11:08:21 AM »

Phantom Lady (1944). Early Siodmak noir, famous for its expressionistic photography and the almost constant presence of Ella Raines. Unhappily, the plot is slack, the dialog lame, the acting unconvincing. The camera-work and Ella get a 5, the film gets a one.



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« #209 : July 05, 2007, 04:41:50 PM »

This weekend is the start of Seattle's first film noir festival, featuring several rare films that have never been released on home video. Details here: http://www.seattlefilm.org/events/detail.aspx?FID=55
I hope I can go to some of these....



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