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« on: April 22, 2005, 06:58:59 AM »

I picked this up for $6.99 a couple of weeks ago. Not bad. Above average score and 3 cool leads made this an enjoyable, if fairly lighthearted, SW. I think I'll keep it. Grin

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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2005, 01:03:45 PM »

Its one of the SW's that I tend to recommend to people, and its quite good fun.  I particularly like the intro with the Django, Man with no Name and Colonel M lookalikes. 

I generally am not so keen on the lighthearted westerns, but this one is a winner.

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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2006, 02:13:09 AM »

I am very curious to know how Edd Byrnes ended up there. (And why Connie Stevens didn't: she had a right to it, as witnessed by her real name).  Anyway, this film is fun to watch, expecially for the actors who are really good. It is stretched and implausible in places, but then you have a scene which makes you forget what has gone before. But also, watching the triello,  you realize the ocean lying between Leone (and Morricone) and the rest.

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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2006, 05:07:12 AM »

Unfortunately i'm missing the opening scene in my "cut" video which is meant to be the films highlight.Other than that George Hilton is the best thing about this movie while Edd Byrnes doesn't really fit into a sw.Its hard to believe that AGCP was made by the same director who did Keoma and Jonathan of The Bears-its still moderately enjoyable though.I know its one of those Leone parodies in which Castellari specialised in at the time but i found some of the slapstick out of place and the music  crap.

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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2006, 05:27:33 AM »

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Well, that makes me think about a SW which is (rightly) on everybody's Top Ten, A Bullet for the General. The only thing I don't like about that movie is Lou Castel, the more so as you have there two stellar interpretations from Kinsky and Volontè. Castel can't fit  into any kind of SW's character as he can't play an american or a mexican convincingly because of his looks. I always wondered who could have played the part. You made me think that Byrnes would have fit perfectly (or even better had he gotten around to sacrifice his pompadour). I think that Castellari may have made a mistake letting him dress up like a rocker.

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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2006, 05:35:05 AM »

I agree that Castel was a very odd choice for the gringo in Bullet For The General and this definately goes against the grain for what is usually a very cool looking anti-hero.Perhaps Damiani did this on purpose(to avoid Leone comparisons?) because despite Castel being not at all likeable, he did turn in a good performance.

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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2006, 05:45:49 AM »

You know how these things go, an actor gets the part for the most different reasons. I don't know how Castel (who, in the late '60's was very famous in Italy, let's not forget that) came to get the part and anyway it's not important: fact is that (at least to me and you) he doesn't look like a gringo (a gringo half as tall as the mexican Volontè). And, I'll add, he looks also too young to impersonate such a scheming and devious character. His was a good performance? Maybe, but doomed from the start.   

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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2006, 05:49:16 AM »

A bit baby-faced maybe?Perhaps that is partly why Chuncho was taken in by Castel in this relationship with homosexual overtones?

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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2006, 06:17:19 AM »

I don't like the kind of speculatin' that sees behind every male friendship homosexual overtones. And anyway such kind of reasoning would make the end even more incomprehensible: if Volontè is in love with Castel, instead of simply considering a friend, why not spend the life with him? And anyway, to be back in theme, as to looks Byrnes gives points to Castel (not that it takes much). 

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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2006, 03:04:20 AM »

The possiblity of a homosexual attraction between Chuncho and Tate didn't really occur to me until i read a chapter devoted to BFTG in Howard Hughes latest sw book and he argues that this relationship is unusually explicit for a western.He backs this up by the swiftness to which Chuncho is taken in by Tate,the fact that Chuncho kills one of his loyal friends to save Tate from harm and he "serenades the gringo and nurses him back to health when he catches malaria".
To this i could ask why did Tate spare Chuncho(and give him half of the bounty) after the cold and calculating way he killed his brother,machine gunned down one of his friends and of course shot dead the General?
Chuncho definately hesistated  to kill Tate at the end of the movie and i'm not convinced that this delay was down to the money alone.Its apparent that the queue jumping incident finally convinced Chuncho that regardless of his feelings for Tate,he had to die!
But as you say Titloli this is all mere speculation because we don't see a gay kiss or anything like that,but Hughes suggestions have made me examine the relationship between Chuncho and Tate in a slightly different light!

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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2006, 03:30:31 AM »

I don't want to start a quarrel (with Hughes via you), but fact is that one of the favourite sports of critics from the '70's onward has been to look for homosexuality in movies. Now, in western of course you can speculate on almost each movie about that: and consequently  I always wondered how you could make a movie about male friendship without somebody saying that it is all about homosexuality in disguise. It is impossible, actually. Hughes saw homosexuality in Chuncho-Nino relationship? Well, it never crossed my mind, actually, when I was watching the movie (as, apparently, it didn't cross yours too: and I think that's only natural). What I saw is that Volontè is taken up not much by Nino sexually but by his otherness, by the fact  that he's so young and still so smart as compared to him who is older and not so swift at getting things. And the dubbing him Nino makes me think rather of a paternal interest toward him (and also of a hommage to FFDM). All of this can be "seen" in the movie: the rest is vain speculation.

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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2006, 03:45:21 AM »

Its a discussion rather than a quarrel isn't it?
I know exactly what you mean Titoli and i get irritated by people(usually gay themselves) reading things into certain filmstars,musicians,movies and making a gay allegation (as if to justify their own sexuality in the case of gays).
     However i think what possibly makes BFTG an exception to the usual (innocent) buddy relationships in movies is that one of them(Tate) is a totally despicably ruthless bastard that it makes you wonder why Chuncho was so keen for his preservation-but as you say Titoli this could be down to Chuncho admiring Tates professionalism.I'm not sure about the paternal interest with one being Mexican,the other a gringo! 

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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2006, 04:10:27 AM »

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However i think what possibly makes BFTG an exception to the usual (innocent) buddy relationships in movies is that one of them(Tate) is a totally despicably ruthless bastard that it makes you wonder why Chuncho was so keen for his preservation

Keep in mind that Chuncho (due to his tardiness) isn't hip to Tate's bastardness until the very end and then...

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But one is an adult the other is a nino.

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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2006, 04:23:53 AM »

Yeau maybe you're right Titoli but i'll give BFTG another viewing this week mainly for reasons for starting a new Morricone poll.At risk of being called homophobic ,i would prefer it if Volonte wasn't a closet gay in this movie as i'm a bit of a fan.It would certainly have been quite revolutionary for this to have happened in the 1960's-i don't know about Italy but in Britain homosexuality was still illegal and very much a taboo subject.

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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2006, 04:43:35 AM »

Try to watch the movie through your own eyes, not another person's. Like you did the first time. And don't go for too hidden meanings.

About being homophobic, I think that recent events should persuade us to reconsider our whole attitude about some things. The preoccupation with being "politically correct" may induce us to allow things about which we'd better have second thoughts. But then it would be better to open up another thread in the off-topic section.

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