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« on: June 06, 2005, 02:20:47 PM »

This has alwaus puzzled me. How does Mr. Leone seem to be able to capture House Flies in perfect time? The greatest example would be in OUTW with the opening scene at the train station. The comical battle between a man and a fly. Of course FFDM and GBU have their fly moments as well.

How does he capture these perfect moments?

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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2005, 12:08:45 PM »

I think it's a case of excellent sound design, a fake fly pulled on a string, an excellent feel of pacing and a great talent. All these add up to an indelible image from one of the best opening sequences in cinema history.

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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2005, 01:07:53 PM »

I was hoping for a metal fly moved by a magnet on the opposite surface !!!

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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2005, 01:11:22 PM »

I was hoping for a metal fly moved by a magnet on the opposite surface !!!

I say that is what it most looks like. no leg movments but sort of jerked sudden sliding movements like a fly makes jsut no legs.

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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2005, 01:14:13 PM »

One of the doco's on the OUATITW DVD I strongly believe says was pulled along by a string. I will check it out again later but I'm pretty sure somewhere it says.

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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2005, 04:32:39 PM »

One of the doco's on the OUATITW DVD I strongly believe says was pulled along by a string. I will check it out again later but I'm pretty sure somewhere it says.
Please sir, I'm not doubting the string. In fact I have heard that too, I was just saying it looks like a magnet is on the other side.

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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2005, 12:01:56 PM »

yeah, somewhere on the dvd someone mentions they had a jar full of flies and put jelly all over jack elams face and that then used a fake fly and some string... although you are right, it does look like a magnet, how you would pull that off on wood I don't have a clue though.

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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2005, 12:50:58 PM »

A magnet will work through wood, if the magnet is strong enough and/or the wood is thin enough. 

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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2005, 12:57:48 PM »

Please sir, I'm not doubting the string. In fact I have heard that too, I was just saying it looks like a magnet is on the other side.

My apologies. I mis-read (teaches me to read fast  Sad )

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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2005, 01:42:39 PM »

Ah, flies in movies. However he pulled it off, Mr. Leone's fly sequence is a masterpiece!
It got me thinking about other fly sequences in movies that are memorable. Apart from the obvious, David Hedison turning into one in THE FLY (1958), the only other one of merit I can think of is the wonderfully inventive fly sequence in THE SPIRIT OF St. LOUIS (1957)! Director, BILLY WILDER, had a problem in telling the story of CHARLES LINDBERG'S 3,600 miles non-stop New York to Paris journey, how to keep an audience intrested (cinema wise) with one man in a cock-pit for a huge chunk of the movie without resorting to a voice over. He, pure genius, added a fly to the cock-pit that became a second actor which allowed JIMMY STEWART (Lindberg) to have an ongoing conversation with his tiny passenger. Classic stuff.
Anybody got any favorite fly sequences that may have cropped up since film first came to life on a white sheet?  Wink

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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2005, 03:30:50 PM »

Just remembered another one, BRANDO grabbing a fly in, APOCALYPSE NOW! And yet another, didn't DWIGHT FRYE, eat one in DRACULA (1930).....or was that a spider? Sorry, this maybe should be posted in another section but just following on from original  (fly) posting!  Wink

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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2005, 05:15:18 PM »

Not forgeting.....ROD STEIGER'S priest vs. the FLIES FROM HELL in the original AMITYVILLE HORROR!
These damm fly sequences are gonna keep me awake.

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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2005, 05:23:07 PM »

And of course, NORMAN BATES in the final scene(s) of HITCHCOCKS "PSYCHO"!

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« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2005, 01:18:33 AM »

Grand Pa Chum is right. In Christopher Frayling book it is said that they had put some sort of honey on Jack Elam chew. I don't remember if they had a bottle of flies, but they certainly had.

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« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2005, 04:24:36 AM »

In the DVD commentary Christopher Frayling says Jack Elam had honey on his lips. They then waited ages and did dozens of takes waiting for a fly to take the bait. Then the fly on the side of the chair is a fake moved by a magnet.

I actually had a magnet fly when I was a kid. The magnet was pretty strong - you could easily use it through a table or chair.

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