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« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2006, 02:36:29 AM »

Yes you theory may well explain Laskys odd utterances as he dies!

It also shows why Sartana seems to have a personal vendetta with Lasky that he does not have with other villians in the later entries. He always looks a bit angry when around lasky. In the later entries he is cool and calm in front of other villains.

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« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2006, 02:37:05 AM »

Do you still think that this movie is not as good as the other two you have?Since getting the excellent widescreen print of this movie,for various reasons i think its easily the best!

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« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2006, 02:39:51 AM »

Do you still think that this movie is not as good as the other two you have?Since getting the excellent widescreen print of this movie,for various reasons i think its easily the best!

actually now that I have seen it like 9 TIMES THIS WEEK!!!!!
I am starting to actually like it and understand it. I still think it is not as good as the other two though(or other three rather if you include the George Hilton one).


have you seen the hilton one?...it is fun.

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« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2006, 02:52:31 AM »

Well if you compare Light The Fuse... which Shobary rates as the best can you really say that Pierro Lulli(or whatever his name is,you know the Grandville character) is anywhere near as good as Berger?The same goes for the mexican Monk who is nowhere near as entertaining as Tampico.The original has a unique gothic atmosphere(later Sartanas are more played for laughs) with Sartana as this spectral figure whereas the later entries he's just a mere mortal in a straightforward detective story.The confusing  but ultimately decipherable plot is much more interesting.
     The only possible thing i can say is better in the Carmineo movies is the Nicholai soundtracks just have the edge.

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« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2006, 02:56:24 AM »

The confusing  but ultimately decipherable plot is much more interesting.
     The only possible thing i can say is better in the Carmineo movies is the Nicholai soundtracks just have the edge.

I agree about the plot of the first Sartana. It makes it that much more fun to sit through over and over again until finally you have figured it out.

Lasky is the best he has faced but there is something about the later  Sartana's I enjoy more though. It must be the sillyness of it all.

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« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2006, 03:02:52 AM »

I agree about the plot of the first Sartana. It makes it that much more fun to sit through over and over again until finally you have figured it out.

Lasky is the best he has faced but there is something about the later  Sartana's I enjoy more though. It must be the sillyness of it all.
Yes theres something a bit more "polished" about Carmineos films-a slightly bigger budget perhaps?-and i like all the stuff with the razor sharp playing cards,Alfie and the organ/machine gun.But theres still something about the original that gives it the feeling of a classic in much the same way as Corbucci's Django which definately does not apply to the others!
I'm looking forward to reading the rest of your Sartana re-construction but i feel we've sort of cracked it-well the beggining part anyway!

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« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2006, 03:04:31 AM »


I'm looking forward to reading the rest of your Sartana re-construction but i feel we've sort of cracked it-well the beggining part anyway!

 Grin the first twenty minutes at most Grin

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« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2006, 03:06:12 AM »

You've still got a problem with it?

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« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2006, 03:12:27 AM »

You've still got a problem with it?

nope. But I have a problem with the rest of the film still. will just keep going down the road were going and we'll reach the end eventually.

Once "Leone_admirer" watches the film he can join us on our quest to fully understand the sartana plot.

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« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2006, 03:24:44 AM »

I watched I Am Sartana Your Angel Of Death last night in anticipation of his review and i could safely say if it wasn't a Garko Sartana film and didn't have Kinski i could happily live without it!
I have a slight problem with the ending of this movie due mainly to the fast and nearly indecipherable English dubbing but i got the general gist anyway.I would only recommend this for Sartana completists!
   Sorry i have the Hilton Fistful of Lead which is fun though Sabbath is irritating!

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« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2006, 03:26:10 AM »


   Sorry i have the Hilton Fistful of Lead which is fun though Sabbath is irritating!

what!? you kidding me? Sabbath is what got the ball rolling in that film!

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« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2006, 03:30:50 AM »

by the way...how big is Kinski's role in "Angel of death"?

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« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2006, 03:30:58 AM »

He looks like a ridiculous camera negative of Sartana and the umbrella is embarrassing.His deadpan manner doesn't really work for me and he's not all that far from coming over as camp!

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« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2006, 03:32:00 AM »

He looks like a ridiculous camera negative of Sartana and the umbrella is embarrassing.His deadpan manner doesn't really work for me and he's not all that far from coming over as camp!

The whole film was complete camp to begin with! that was the point!

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« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2006, 03:35:05 AM »

by the way...how big is Kinski's role in "Angel of death"?
Very substantial for a Kinski part-he's strictly playing for laughs as one of the bounty killers after Sartana but also happens to be the worlds unluckiest gambler-and he truly excells here!!
Unfortunately he disappears way too(20/30 minutes or so) prematurely before the climax of the film.

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