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« on: June 09, 2005, 10:01:25 AM »

For those of you who have seen the prologue or heard of it, I'd like to get your opinion of it. My opinion it that, since it tells that Clint Eastwood's character is a released prisoner, that it actually decreases his moral actions. The point was to add moral and righteousness to the story. Being forced to help for your life takes the moral from the story. My version of a prologue would be that Clint is the one "he knew someone like you once and there was no one to help". He is just drifting and sees a town that needs help and he's lookin for some dough. So he saves some people and makes some money and does some cool stuff in between. I don't want to think of him as on a mission to kill from the start. He is just a high plains drifter looking for money.

I'm glad Mr. Leone did not have this version in mind, and that it was just ABC's idea not good ol' Sergio.

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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2005, 12:41:03 PM »

ABC did this on their own, to privide a "moral" reason for No Name to clean up the town, so it didn't look like all he was after was $$$ for himself.  I saw this on ABC television in the 1970s, was done terribly, showed in prison an actor from the rear dressed in a poncho, then had two quick frontal spliced images of Eastwood's face.  If Clint cleaned up the town, he would earn a pardon.

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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2005, 02:08:49 PM »

ABC did this on their own, to privide a "moral" reason for No Name to clean up the town, so it didn't look like all he was after was $$$ for himself.  I saw this on ABC television in the 1970s, was done terribly, showed in prison an actor from the rear dressed in a poncho, then had two quick frontal spliced images of Eastwood's face.  If Clint cleaned up the town, he would earn a pardon.

It does kind of ruin my image of Eastwood's character of a good guy who helps people on his own mind and makes some money for fun and to live on. Like I said I'm glad Leone had nothing to do with it.

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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2005, 03:36:39 PM »

I look at it this way, he's a regular joe, human like the rest of us, not entierly a saint,  not a bad ass, just somebody trying to make a buck,  in it for the money, good at what he does, and has a conscience, basicly a good guy.

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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2005, 05:04:57 PM »

I look at it this way, he's a regular joe, human like the rest of us, not entierly a saint,  not a bad ass, just somebody trying to make a buck,  in it for the money, good at what he does, and has a conscience, basicly a good guy.

Great way to put it. Thanks. By the way, joe, if you haven't yet check your messages

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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2005, 01:03:34 PM »

It's like when Lucas changed Star Wars so that Greedo fired first. Well, maybe not since Lucas came up with the silly notion himself and ABC did it on their own.

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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2005, 05:01:59 PM »

OK you guys in the good old US of A, will someone inform us in the UK what this prologue is all about. Where can we see or hear it.


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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2005, 05:21:29 PM »

Ice, I didn't know you were one of the British Citizenship. I only just read about it on this site. The home site has a description of it for FoD. It is something ABC made to explain Joe's actions in the movie. I personally think it ruins the morals and whole of the story. That's what it's all about. look on the main page of this site and read about it.

By the was, as a Britton, does the term Britt offend you or others. How do "Britts" like to be referred to as?

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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2007, 02:35:25 PM »

I did not like the prologue. It kind of took away the mystery of this great character. I like not knowing his past. This prologue defeats that totally. I don't like the idea that he was once a prisoner. I never thought that of this character before I ever seen this prologue. I don't like it.

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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2007, 05:07:41 PM »

On the one hand, it cheapens Joe's motivation. On the other hand, it makes the film seem more like Escape From New York.

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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2007, 08:45:58 PM »

On the one hand, it cheapens Joe's motivation. On the other hand, it makes the film seem more like Escape From New York.

This is very true. Great comparison jenkins!

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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2007, 08:48:57 PM »

the prologue isn't nore ever was part of the  film

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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2007, 08:51:10 PM »

the prologue isn't nore ever was part of the  film

What the hell is the point of it anyway?

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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2007, 08:55:19 PM »

What the hell is the point of it anyway?

They put it at the beginning of the movie when it was shown on tv.


The tv station execs wanted to give a moral reason as to why MWNN kills (instead of greed).

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« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2007, 09:55:14 PM »

They put it at the beginning of the movie when it was shown on tv.


The tv station execs wanted to give a moral reason as to why MWNN kills (instead of greed).

What a crock. I love how the the director of the prologue says he was happy to see it on the "Fistfull of Dollars" DVD because it's part of it's history. Bullsh*t. It's not part of Leone history by no means.

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