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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2006, 03:57:36 PM »

If you consider 1970 to be part of the 60s (and I do)......

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then I take my opinion back as I dont consider 70 to be apart of the 60's.

my mistake. Thanks for pointing it out.

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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2006, 04:06:58 PM »

This is not a matter left to private judgement. We start to count from 1 to arrive at 10. Zero has no value. So a decade starts from 1, not from 0.

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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2006, 04:18:28 PM »

But some could consider the 60s as beeing a certain period and not an exact decade. And in this case, 1970 does not really belongs to the sixties:)

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« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2006, 04:33:01 PM »

This was already noted in another thread by Dave Jenkins: subjectively you can stretch periods of time as you prefer. The '60's for me started in 1963 and ended in 1976. But what about others with other dates? So, you know,  we have to find a common calendar and a common way to count unless we don't care about communicating. And  the calendar was invented to do just that. And there are not two ways to count with it.

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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2006, 04:41:02 PM »

But we are talking about movies, which have something to do with subjective periodes, ideas and the like, and nothing to do with the calendar... Wink

So, I still support the Firecracker:) moreover, Little Big Man looks more like a 1970's movie than a 1960's one IMO.

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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2006, 04:44:57 PM »

This is not a matter left to private judgement.


why is that?

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« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2006, 04:47:57 PM »

Anyway, the firecracker couldn't say "according to the common calendar, Little big Man does belong to the sixties, but I do not subjectively consider 1970 as part of the sixties."

"I dont consider 70 to be apart of the 60's." was enough respectuous of our way of communication IMO Smiley

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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2006, 04:57:23 PM »

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But we are talking about movies, which have something to do with subjective periodes, ideas and the like, and nothing to do with the calendar...


In facts they have to do with the calendar only when you  date them. Apart from that you can talk about them as you prefer.

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Anyway, the firecracker couldn't say "according to the common calendar, Little big Man does belong to the sixties, but I do not subjectively consider 1970 as part of the sixties."

I agree. But that's a Firecracker's problem.


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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2006, 05:03:42 PM »

Please remark that I have just started what it could be my second thousand series of posts. And it has started not with post 1000 but with 1001. post number 1000 was the last of the first series not the first of the second.

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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2006, 05:06:20 PM »

Please remark that I have just started what it could be my second thousand series of posts. And it has started not with post 1000 but with 1001. post number 1000 was the last of the first series not the first of the second.

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« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2006, 05:07:58 PM »



In facts they have to do with the calendar only when you  date them. Apart from that you can talk about them as you prefer.

Why? He could have said: "Though made in 1970, LBM doesn't belong to the '60's". What's wrong with this?


he could have say it. but what's wrong with what he told? Smiley

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« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2006, 05:11:54 PM »

No,my mistake. I had forgotten what his line was (LBM as a '60's, not a '70's movie: which is correct, BTW) and corrected my post.

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« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2006, 05:18:44 PM »

ok Smiley

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« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2006, 09:42:51 PM »

whew, glad we settled that one, lol.

Anyway getting back to LBM, its a film of contrasts for sure.

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Never though of it as a masterpiece, but its very good, and I guess you could call it that along with Penn's Bonnie & Clyde.

Missouri Breaks is pretty entertaining also.

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« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2006, 09:54:18 AM »

One more note (I hear that groaning, class!) on the matter of calendarical time; strictly speaking, the "60"s runs from 1960-1969. However, the seventh decade of the 20th Century includes the years 61-70. Whether to lump year "70" in with 60-69 or 61-70 then rests on nothing more than an accident of semantics.

As a practicing Herzogian, I resist such accountants' truths! I seek ecstatic truth, the kind available to all who recognize there is a period of continuity that runs from the early 60s to the mid 70s. What point is there to arbitrarily limit from discussion films produced in 69 but not actually released until 70? When we look at a film like Klute (1970) and speak of it as exhibiting a 60s ethos, we all know what we're talking about. Bean counters be damned!

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