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« #30 : May 03, 2007, 01:52:11 AM »



I remember reading once that the Franco Cleef  version (the supposed best version of this film possible) is actually cut by 7 full minutes!!! :o
I never told you this before but i gave away a pan and scan version of the movie(the quality was so bad it was almost unwatchable) which had an additional 5 minute scene of a (Sartana-less showdown in the church) which was reinacted at the end of the movie.This missing scene didn't have any bearing on the rest of the movie which is why i wasn't bothered about giving it away.

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« #31 : May 03, 2007, 01:58:34 AM »

I never told you this before but i gave away a pan and scan version of the movie(the quality was so bad it was almost unwatchable) which had an additional 5 minute scene of a (Sartana-less showdown in the church) which was reinacted at the end of the movie.This missing scene didn't have any bearing on the rest of the movie which is why i wasn't bothered about giving it away.

That's bizarre. That must be the missing 7 minutes. Perhaps it was Franco Cleef's best judgement to leave it out.

Any hope of picking this up again?




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« #32 : May 03, 2007, 02:08:00 AM »

That's bizarre. That must be the missing 7 minutes. Perhaps it was Franco Cleef's best judgement to leave it out.

Any hope of picking this up again?
I sent it to Leone Admirer.This was before i bought my dvd recorder.If he still has it but can't burn a copy i could always ruin the film by doing what i did with that Long Live Your Death dvd,ie edit in the pan & scan scene ;D

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« #33 : May 03, 2007, 04:32:01 PM »

how long is the version you're talking about, without the 7 min.? I didn't have any problem following the last ten minutes (you mean adfter or before the Gordon Mitchell shootout?

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He shoots Borgese anf then he's "shot" by Wolff who can take him to the bank director who's the real boss behind the bank heist.


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« #34 : May 03, 2007, 08:20:14 PM »

how long is the version you're talking about, without the 7 min.? I didn't have any problem following the last ten minutes (you mean adfter or before the Gordon Mitchell shootout?

SPOILER

He shoots Borgese anf then he's "shot" by Wolff who can take him to the bank director who's the real boss behind the bank heist.


About five minutes before the Gordon Mitchell showdown in the gambeling house. when Sartana is speaking at a rapid speed to Buddy Ben in the cemetery.
Alot of things there don't add up. You get the jest by the end of the film but it leaves you scratching your head.




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« #35 : May 03, 2007, 08:21:37 PM »

how long is the version you're talking about, without the 7 min.?


The version you saw on italian television (?) would most likely be the cut version since the extra footage is unwatchable.




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« #36 : May 03, 2007, 09:07:18 PM »

http://www.spaghettiwestern.altervista.org/garko2.htm

here the talk is of 97', which makes a 93' running time for tv.


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« #37 : May 04, 2007, 08:41:18 AM »

how long is the version you're talking about, without the 7 min.?
The 7 minute segment which existed on the pan and scan dvd i gave away were the scenes covering the first church hall showdown between the casino boss and an anomynous ripped off gambler right at the point just before Sartana arrives at the casino town.
Like the first scene in Man With The Golden Gun where Scaramanga has the amusement arcade duel with the gangster,i'm sure the intention of this unfortunately cut sequence from my widescreen dvd was to show to the audience what our hero was eventually letting himself in for.

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« #38 : May 04, 2007, 08:46:09 AM »


Buddy Ben in the cemetery.
Yes that is exactly where i lose the plot too despite how many times i replay this. :(

Maybe we could do a reconstruction up to this scene(apart from the deleted segment which i'm certain doesn't affect the rest of the movie) and then maybe Titoli would be kind enough to fill in all the gaps at the end? O0

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« #39 : May 04, 2007, 02:37:21 PM »

The 97' is the real during time of my tv version, which makes a theatre version of more than 101'. How long is yours?


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« #40 : May 07, 2007, 04:40:35 AM »

The 97' is the real during time of my tv version, which makes a theatre version of more than 101'. How long is yours?
My copy is a (decent widescreen) bootleg bought very cheaply from Ebay with a homemade sleeve stating 96 minutes.If Firecrackers keen,or if i'm in the right mood i'll watch this movie sometime in the week and jot out the plot.

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« #41 : May 14, 2007, 04:00:27 PM »

Firecracker did you finish this in the last week (and take notes)? ???

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« #42 : May 26, 2007, 02:49:36 AM »

Silenzio's  review:-

I Am Sartana, Your Angel of Death -- My second of the Sartana series, and my second Carmineo film as well.  With a director like that, and the great SW actors like Frank Wolff, Gianni Garko, and Klaus Kinski, it's really hard to go wrong with this SW.  And it doesn't go wrong.  This movie is not a failure, but it's not great, either.  The plot is pretty good (Sartana is framed for a robbery) but by the last fifteen minutes or so it gets really convoluted (and not in a good "If You Meet Sartana, Pray For Your Death" convoluted, I mean like convoluted but I really don't care whether or not I know what's going on).  It's still and interesting and fun watch, though.  The score seems a little uninspired, I'd say.  Klaus Kinski's theme rips off from the most unlikely place.... "Santa Claus is Coming to Town."  And one scene has a melody very similar to " 'Pop' Goes the Weasel."  I hope the other Garko-Sartanas are better than this movie.

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