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« Reply #60 on: February 28, 2013, 05:03:10 PM »

Stanton cut?

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« Reply #61 on: February 28, 2013, 05:12:52 PM »

IMO, the issue isn't whether or not an individual viewer like the scene. The issue is whether or not Leone preferred to have it in there. If he did, it should be in there; if he didn't, then it should only be in the bonus features.


At this point, I guess you can argue that it;'s not that big a deal for me; when I watch the movie and that scene begins, I can just click "next chapter" on my remote, and get to the next scene, and that's it, done. so why make such a big deal over it. Well, what about people viewing the movie for the first time? people who shut a movie off when they don't like it? who knows how many people it can turn off from liking the movie?

I once mentioned this elsewhere but I will say it again: the first time I watched GBU (my first Leone movie; my views on movies were completely different than now, I wasn't  anything close to a cineaste, I was nothing more tha a casual movie viewer, and I had no idea about Leone), but the first half of that movie moved incredibly slowly for me. I very nearly shut if off. I think I only kept it on cuz I was waiting to hear Ecstasy of Gold! By the time I got to the end, I loved it, and became a huge Leone fan, and the rest is history. But I very nearly shut the movie off early on cuz it was moving so slowly, and I specifically remember that Cave scene. tearing my hair out, screaming "make something happen already!" yes, i specifically remember how that cave scene very nearly caused me to give up on Leone before I started. if that had happened, I'd never have watched any of his movies, never read any of Frayling's books about Leone's movie influences, which in turn caused me to starts watching all of those influences and becoming the cineaste I am today. [I am not using that term to indicate that I am anything close to a movie expert or scholar; I am using it in the sense that I am a huge movie fan and it's such a big part of my life]. Imagine how infuriated I was later when I learned that the scene that almost changed the course of my life -- no exaggeration -- was inserted my John motherfucking Jerk! Seriously, I cursed him with every social disease known to mankind.

of course, at this point, i can just forward the cave scene. actually this point, now that i know and love the movie, I always watch the cave scene, and it's funny for me! But most people who watch a movie watch it once (even if they finish it at all) and that's it. who knows how many casual viewers can get turned off by a bad scene. for John Jerk to say that even though Leone removed a scene, he decided to include it cuz he thought it would be jarring otherwise, i say that he is way overstepping his job as a restorer. fuck him and his clapped cock

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« Reply #62 on: February 28, 2013, 05:19:24 PM »

Even though I enjoy the cave scene [and enjoyed it the first time I saw it], I can understand where you're coming from, especially your hate towards John Kirk who thought it would be wise to try and step into the shoes of Leone and speak on behalf of him in regards to his preferred cut.

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« Reply #63 on: February 28, 2013, 05:28:31 PM »

Even though I enjoy the cave scene [and enjoyed it the first time I saw it], I can understand where you're coming from, especially your hate towards John Kirk who thought it would be wise to try and step into the shoes of Leone and speak on behalf of him in regards to his preferred cut.

yes, that's my point.

doesn't matter how great or terrible the Cave scene is. what matters is, you don't fuck with Leone.

Now, if Leone really preferred to have that scene in (and eg. only removed it cuz the Italian distributor wanted him to), then in that case, Jerk should have simply said so, and that would be the end of it. I'd be praising him for restoring the movie as Leone desired it.
But how the fuck he actually has the nerve to get up there and announce EVEN THOUGH LEONE REMOVED IT I AM PUTTING IT BACK IN CUZ IT'S JARRING, for that he is contemptible. And for changing the gunshots.

once Jerk starts using those words "inserting" "reinserting" and "jarring," there's a whole shitload of awful jokes I can make. But I won't cuz I don't have the time. (And cuz I am sure I have already done so)

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« Reply #64 on: February 28, 2013, 06:36:03 PM »

I still refuse to watch any other than the 161 minute cut. That's a practically perfect movie.

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« Reply #65 on: March 01, 2013, 02:48:03 AM »

Stanton cut?

Only a joke ...

The perfect version for me. Without the cave scene, and without 2 other short scenes.

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« Reply #66 on: March 01, 2013, 02:57:29 AM »

Cool! I guess everyone has their own cut.
You have yours, I have mine, John Kirk has his, and so does the big man himself SL.

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« Reply #67 on: June 05, 2016, 11:07:46 AM »

Is it possible to update the links and photos at the top of this thread that are broken or missing? Just asking . . . .

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« Reply #68 on: June 05, 2016, 06:40:41 PM »

Is it possible to update the links and photos at the top of this thread that are broken or missing? Just asking . . . .

A lot of stuff I had on Imageshack that were posted here went South. I suppose that is what happened to some of the others.

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« Reply #69 on: June 05, 2016, 09:51:00 PM »

A lot of stuff I had on Imageshack that were posted here went South. I suppose that is what happened to some of the others.

Yeah, seems like ImageShack canceled my art links after two years. I'd probably get them back if I purchased the premium membership.

Would be great if SLWB can host pics. It would cost money, but I'd chip in and I am sure some of the other members would as well.

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« Reply #70 on: June 06, 2016, 06:29:06 AM »

You can host images on Flickr.

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« Reply #71 on: June 06, 2016, 05:22:04 PM »

You can host images on Flickr.

I know but the laptop that had the original images went South too a long time ago. I'd have to research them all again. Hat images, redraw the maps for the GBU timeline, the maps for the Zapata Westerns Mex Rev thread.

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« Reply #72 on: June 06, 2016, 06:22:05 PM »

I know but the laptop that had the original images went South too a long time ago. I'd have to research them all again. Hat images, redraw the maps for the GBU timeline, the maps for the Zapata Westerns Mex Rev thread.

As long as you still have the username and password to that ImageShack account, shouldn't you be able to retreive the pics from the account? Even if the links don't work anymore, I'd think you should still be able to log in and retreive the pics??

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« Reply #73 on: June 06, 2016, 07:32:36 PM »

As long as you still have the username and password to that ImageShack account, shouldn't you be able to retreive the pics from the account? Even if the links don't work anymore, I'd think you should still be able to log in and retreive the pics??

Oh sure I always save shit like that  Roll Eyes I'd have to try and  guess WTF I used.  Grin

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