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« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2013, 05:43:31 AM »

I think it was for LVC's part in FDM not GBU

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« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2013, 08:30:23 AM »

During shooting, Angel Eyes's name was Sentenze; every time the name Angel Eyes is mentioned, you can see the actors actually saying "Sentenza." After filming, Eastwood came up with the idea to change the name to Angel Eyes.

Right, called Sentenza in international versions.  So what is the Italian (translated) for the line "I bet they don't call you Angel Eyes.  Sergent Angel Eyes", then Tuco laughs.  What would be the joke if Sentenza didn't have a nickname?

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« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2013, 10:13:40 AM »

Right, called Sentenza in international versions.  So what is the Italian (translated) for the line "I bet they don't call you Angel Eyes.  Sergent Angel Eyes", then Tuco laughs.  What would be the joke if Sentenza didn't have a nickname?

I'd like to know this as well.

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« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2018, 01:45:52 PM »

Just read this for the first time.
Never noticed lots of what has been pointed out!
To me Blondie only says "every gun..tune", meaning he recognized the sound Tuco's gun makes.
The whole 5.1 theory never occurred to me

Bravo you sons of bitches!

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« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2018, 02:31:53 PM »

Iceman

I really need to know your theory.  When you realise that Tuco wouldn't have had a gun when taken away on the train by Wallace, it ruins the whole point of Blondie saying it (IMO)

Your theory may redeem it.   Smiley

But.......
Tuco has a personalized pistol made from parts of various weapons.  So it might have a unique sound.
Maybe the gun he owned when Blondie first knew him was the same?

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« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2018, 08:26:00 PM »

Right, called Sentenza in international versions.  So what is the Italian (translated) for the line "I bet they don't call you Angel Eyes.  Sergent Angel Eyes", then Tuco laughs.  What would be the joke if Sentenza didn't have a nickname?

It took me a few years but I finally had an Italian colleague provide me with a direct translation of the Italian dialogue (of the BD) in order to see what tweaks Mickey Knox made to sync the English dialogue with the actors lips. Answer? Some minor differences. The Italian and English dialogues are mostly consistent.

Anyways, here's what he had to say:

As for Van Cleef's character, in my script I translated his nickname as "Death Sentence", it's a two-words nickname like "Angel Eyes" was, and it's basically a direct translation of the nickname in the Italian dialogues, which is what I was asked to do with this text.

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« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2018, 09:21:00 PM »

It took me a few years but I finally had an Italian colleague provide me with a direct translation of the Italian dialogue (of the BD) in order to see what tweaks Mickey Knox made to sync the English dialogue with the actors lips. Answer? Some minor differences. The Italian and English dialogues are mostly consistent.

Anyways, here's what he had to say:

As for Van Cleef's character, in my script I translated his nickname as "Death Sentence", it's a two-words nickname like "Angel Eyes" was, and it's basically a direct translation of the nickname in the Italian dialogues, which is what I was asked to do with this text.


Cool.
You were right about it being a nickname!
Always figured it was surname.

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« Reply #37 on: April 19, 2018, 07:45:26 AM »

But.......
Tuco has a personalized pistol made from parts of various weapons.  So it might have a unique sound.
Maybe the gun he owned when Blondie first knew him was the same?

Tuco's "personalized" pistol was taken from him when he and Blondie were taken prisoners by the Union Army after leaving Mission San Antonio.

Extremely doubtful he could've "found" that pistol again after cutting his ties with Sgt. Wallace ! 

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« Reply #38 on: April 19, 2018, 10:37:58 AM »

Lots of doubtful events in the screenplay.
Like i said, the idea of the "tune" being the pattern of shots never occurred to me.  Makes sense!!!!!!

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