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« on: April 10, 2003, 08:02:15 AM »

 I recently bought a GBU DVD (unfortunately only in french language) with several cutted scenes (in Italian with french subtitles):
I saw for the first time some interesting scenes (17 minutes)

1 Sentenza visiting a Fort occupied by some Confederates rebels (people refusing the war: in french "insoumis " or "refractaires ") .So he met a guy who explained him that Bill carson could be dead or POW
2 Blondie meeting Sentenza 's gang near a river and killing one of them.
3 Tuco's meeting a Confederate troop and asked them to help Blondie burnt by the sun in the desert, before going to the monastery whose name is 'Apache...
4 The drunked Captain near the bridge explaining that everybody ,Federate and Confederate is always drunked
5 Torture scene in the desert with Tuco's boot and Tuco's feet-bath  

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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2003, 01:34:33 PM »

I have USA GBU DVD and I believe it has seven deleted scenes.  One for sure you haven't listed is just after Blondie and Tuco leave the mission, before they run into the dusty Union soldiers.  Blondie asks where the graveyard is, and Tuco tells him it's far, in Texas.  The road is quite littered with dead soldiers.  I think the final scene is just a few seconds while they're hanging the dynamite under the bridge.  Watch for the May 10th restoration on AMC television.

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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2003, 04:07:21 PM »

I agree with Cusser those are the two other scenes in the version I have.

Anybody know what became of Tuco in the cave scene?

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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2003, 05:43:19 AM »

 Just how many cuts are there ?

I have the dvd, with supposedly all the deleted scenes, but I have also seen the still of Blondie in bed with the girl, and I have seen at least one lobby card with LVC standing over a Clint who I think is sitting down under a tree. It looked as though LVC were shouting at Clint or trying to make some point. However, the "cave scene" with Tuco is a new one on me.

Just how much is missing from this & the other 2 films I wonder.

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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2003, 01:24:07 PM »

Hey, Maxus2 is using my photo !!!

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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2003, 09:39:09 PM »

Cave Scene - Its before Tuco confronts Blondie with the two vacqueros at the hotel.

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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2003, 05:29:46 AM »

Here is the AMC official press release from EwFan62 from Eastwood board. The "Cave Scene" LIVES!

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Here is the official AMC release for the restored showing of GBU on 5/10 8PM - Ltbx, uncut, uninterrupted - for once.

AMC TO AIR WORLD TELEVISION PREMIERE
OF NEWLY RESTORED, THREE-HOUR VERSION OF
THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY,
SATURDAY, MAY 10, AS A
SPECIAL FILM PRESERVATION PRESENTATION

Jericho, NY, April 14, 2003 - AMC and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios have teamed to restore Sergio Leone's masterpiece, The Good, The Bad And The Ugly, in partnership with Martin Scorsese's The Film Foundation. Since its American release in 1966, the movie has become one of the most influential westerns ever made. Shot in Italy then released worldwide with 14 minutes cut, Leone's sprawling epic galvanized Clint Eastwood's "Man With No Name" persona, burned Ennio Morricone's iconic theme forever into worldwide culture, and re-imagined the American west as a barren plain where the villains were mean and the heroes were meaner. Up until now, Leone's original three-hour version has only existed in a recently restored Italian-language version not seen outside of Italy. Now, AMC has teamed with MGM and The Film Foundation to create the first ever English-language restoration of Leone's original film, with new voice work from the film's stars, Clint Eastwood and Eli Wallach, on seven deleted scenes, plus one which has never been seen by American audiences.

The newly restored film will make its world television premiere on AMC on Saturday, May 10th at 8 PM. The film will be presented uncut, without commercial interruption, in its original wide screen aspect ratio, the way director Sergio Leone intended.

To accompany the special presentation, AMC will showcase an homage to Clint Eastwood: "Make My Saturday: A Clint Eastwood Marathon." A complete schedule of movies and air times is attached.

"Rediscovering Leone's original vision for The Good, The Bad and the Ugly is one of the great rewards of film preservation at AMC," said AMC General Manager Noreen O'Loughlin. "For us, preservation is as much about adventure and discovery as it is about history. We're delighted to team with MGM and The Film Foundation on a project like this, and hope movie people will relish watching this inimitable masterpiece the way it was meant to be seen."

"So many fans have asked us to create an English version of the film that has never before existed," commented John Kirk, Film Archivist at MGM. "With AMC's contribution, along with the support and help of Clint Eastwood, Eli Wallach, and the film's producer, Alberto Grimaldi, we have tried to make our reintegration of the missing scenes and English-language dialogue as true to the Italian version as possible."

AMC commissioned the reconstruction of The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, which was done in-house by Mr. Kirk. He oversaw the meticulous re-integration of fourteen minutes of missing footage, totaling seven scenes, cut from the American and subsequent international release of the film. The project also involved dubbing those segments into English and utilizing the voices of surviving main cast members, Clint Eastwood and Eli Wallach. Vocal artist Simon Prescott recreated the part of Lee Van Cleef, who passed away in 1989.

MGM, who previously restored the lost ending on such cinematic gems as the noir classic Kiss Me Deadly, Francois Truffaut's Mississippi Mermaid and Billy Wilder's The Apartment, began the project four years ago when it was transferring the film to video. AMC subsequently initiated a partnership with the Studio to put together an all-new restored English-language version of Leone's original three-hour cut for a Special Film Preservation Presentation on AMC. MGM then contacted surviving cast members Clint Eastwood and Eli Wallach about re-dubbing their lines from the cut sequences and both actors were supportive of the effort. Wallach was recorded in October of 2002, followed by Eastwood in December.

MGM also had to import the elements of the film from Italy, setting its sights on the Italian restoration of Leone's original cut, which was completed in 1999. With the help of the film's producer, Alberto Grimaldi, the Studio was able to secure the negative from Italy's Cineteca Nazionale to be used in the American restoration. The restoration consisted primarily of sound work-- remixing stereo sound from the original mono recording-- which MGM completed locally at Intersound in West Hollywood-- and putting together a print at Triage Picture Lab in Hollywood. The Studio utilized American voice actors to accompany Eastwood and Wallach's tracks for the seven cut scenes that had never before been presented in English.

Though MGM had released the film on DVD with most of the missing scenes included in the special features (in Italian, with English subtitles), this restored version represents the first time these scenes will be seen re-integrated into the film in English. A missing scene, not included on the DVD, explains how Eli Wallach's character ("Tuco") enlists the two banditos that help him hunt down Clint Eastwood's character (whom Tuco dubs "Blondie.")

AMC will premiere The Good, The Bad and The Ugly as a Special Film Preservation Presentation. Since 1993, AMC has partnered with The Film Foundation to help educate viewers about the need to guard the nation's endangered film heritage, while raising funds for the archives whose vital work saves hundreds of thousands of films each year. AMC has raised over $2 million for The Film Foundation, which funds seven member archives across the country including: the Academy Film Archive, George Eastman House, Library of Congress, Museum of Modern Art, and UCLA Film and Television Archive, as well as the National Center for Film and Video Preservation at the American Film Institute, and the National Film Preservation Foundation.

Set during the raging chaos of the Civil War, The Good, The Bad and The Ugly stars Clint Eastwood, Eli Wallach and Lee Van Cleef as three gunfighters with their eyes set on $200,000 worth of hidden gold. Though they work together and apart, it's every man for himself as the three desperadoes undergo an odyssey through the violent Wild West toward their final fates.

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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2003, 10:57:16 PM »

I'm watching this tonight and its REALLY neat to see the missing scenes. I never knew exactly where this was supposed to be taking place.

What's really neat is I did a paper on the Battle for Glorietta in college so when they mentioned Glorietta, Apache Canyon and Fort Craig, I was all ears!

Of course Spain and/or Italy are a funny substitute (count the wheels on the railroad cars!!).

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« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2003, 09:06:00 AM »

They did a great job, the other thing that you may look for with the trains is the wide gauge track, I think its 6 feet as opposed to 4 feet 8 inches the standard gauge for the US now, the one caveat is that in Texas and in other parts of the US at that time there was actually some 6 foot gauge railroads.

If you notice on OUTITW Morton's passager car/office has 4 or possibly 6 wheel trucks I believe that it may be an American made Pullman, any train buff out there that can confirm?

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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2003, 12:49:52 PM »

hi i'm new on here i'm from england and would like to know about this new restored version  was it better? is it coming  to england? are they going  to make a special edition on dvd? i've got the original mgm dvd but would love to see 1 of my top 10 films ever in full. please help
They did a great job, the other thing that you may look for with the trains is the wide gauge track, I think its 6 feet as opposed to 4 feet 8 inches the standard gauge for the US now, the one caveat is that in Texas and in other parts of the US at that time there was actually some 6 foot gauge railroads.

If you notice on OUTITW Morton's passager car/office has 4 or possibly 6 wheel trucks I believe that it may be an American made Pullman, any train buff out there that can confirm?

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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2003, 05:28:29 PM »

Its better to see the full version, I remember the critics pointing out how Angel Eyes, Blondie, etc. kept popping up together in places and other coincidences and etc., and the long version gives you the missing links-connetions, that advance the story in a systematic manner.

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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2003, 02:56:54 PM »

what exactly is the grotto scene.  I have the DVD but I was sitting here trying to remember what it was in my deleted scenes.  Can anybody jog my memory?

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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2003, 08:27:24 PM »

Hi thrill,

It isn't in the current DVD available, this is an extra scene (that was in the original Italian Version) that explains where Tuco recruits the gunmen that try to sneak up on Blondie from the hall outside his room while he cleans his gun in the hotel.  Tuco comes in at the widow and gets the drop on Blondie.  This GBU version is called the "Extended English Language Version" and it played in select cities in the US earlier this year. It was also shown on AMC without comerials one time only, and with comercials since.

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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2004, 11:45:30 AM »

the deleted scenes are

grotto scene.
angeleyes visits confederate fort.
soccoro.
extended desert torture.
tuco at the fort.
on the trail
extended tuco torture
missing scene with blondie and angeleyes[more info would be great.]
scene in the swamp with blondie and LVC.
longer speech with drunken union captain.
extended attaching the dynamite sequence.

I think thats about it.

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