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« Reply #30 on: October 20, 2005, 02:33:54 PM »

More great views Ollie.  You must be getting sore eyes!!!   Shocked

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« Reply #31 on: October 24, 2005, 03:17:47 PM »

Yea keep them comming.

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« Reply #32 on: October 24, 2005, 03:49:05 PM »

Hi Guys! This is just an update about this week. I've just got back from a premiere and I've got 4 others to go to this week, so I'm kinda fitting my spaghetti viewing around that. I'm hopefully going to watch Sabata tonight and deliver you the review tomorow.

Anyway best wishes

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« Reply #33 on: October 24, 2005, 09:34:01 PM »

  Does anyone have Franco Cleef's email address?  I know there were some problems with his dvd's being sold on ebay, but I'd really like to see this movie, especially since I've heard such good things about it.

  If someone does have Franco's email and doesn't want to post it for the whole internet to see it, please email me.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

  Thanks, amigos.

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« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2005, 02:33:28 AM »

Leone Admirer,very well said about the excellent Requiescant,i couldn't have written a more informative review myself.I still only have the slightly abridged video version called Kill & Pray but once i get a few more quality titles of my wanted list i will have to invest in the Wildeast dvd.I can recommend Requiescant to Leone Lovers everywhere,and on the strength of Leone Admirers opinions i will also be purchasing other titles discussed on this threaad.

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« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2005, 04:17:50 AM »

Thanks banjo  Grin. Tim, I too would like to have Franco Cleef's email address to thank him for making such a wonderful DVD, the DVD can be bought at www.xploitedcinema.com under the spaghetti western category.l Great site for spaghettis, I bought all my Wild East DVD's from there. I hope this helps.

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« Reply #36 on: October 26, 2005, 06:48:58 AM »

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Just sent Franco Cleef's email to you both (Email & Leone Forum Personal Message) Wink


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« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2005, 03:57:01 AM »

Thanks TS, I did send a reply to you I hope you got it  Grin. Apologies everyone for my delay in reviews. I finally got round to watching Sabata last night and I'll review that later today. I'm hoping to watch Return of Sabata but I have a major premiere up in London tonight and I don't know when I'll get back. But, on Monday I am watching a Mystery Spaghetti, one I haven't listed yet and I will review it, along with Texas Adios on Tuesday. So you have to guess which one it is (I'll give you a clue, its been recently restored by Munich Film Institute and print I'm seeing it on contains two endings)

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« Reply #38 on: October 29, 2005, 06:08:38 AM »

29.10.05

Sabata

A film that ultimatly doesn't deliver, Sabata is still a little fun if heavily flawed western, saved by Van Cleefs performance and likeable personality.
      As Sabata (Lee Van Cleef) enters town, three pillars of society have arranged for the bank, which for a brief time holds $100,000 of army money, to be robbed so that they can buy land. Sabata is able to find the money and foil their plans, but decides to stay in town, to find out what else the head villain, Stengel (Franco Ressel) has in store. He teams up with an ex army man Carrincha (Ignazio Spalla) and a mute called Alley Cat. In town he meets and ex friend called Banjo (Wiliam Berger)  whos calling mark is his Banjo, and Sabata has to decided whether Banjo this time round is either friend or fo.
      The films opening is arresting, a stranger rides into town, which is shown through the riders POV, as the gang prepare to rob the bank. Once we establish that its Sabata that has entered the town we are shown his powers and his gun before the bank is robbed.
       Sabata has many elements to make it a good, film, however these elements are either taken to the extreme or not used enough and this seriously hurts the film.
       The film doesn't take itself too seriously, and this is shown in the ludicrous actions and gadgets that the characters have. Everything to dart guns, banjo guns (!) long firing rifles, staff guns, guns in bags you name it, it'll have a gun in it. This over reliance on the gadgets ruins the film, which is a shame because some, the gun in the bag and the two barreled gun that Sabata carries are interesting, but are then used too much. For me, the banjo gun was a step too far, also I wanted the annoying banjo to die in that scene.
        The use of circus performers, whilst adding to a sureal atmosphere do not help the film either. Seeing the Alley Cat doing cart wheels and large jumps just made him look like a spare wheel, as if the part written in the script was quite small and the actor and director (Gianfranco Parolini) had decided to increase his part.
        The film is also worst hit by the pathetic villain, Stengel. It seems that who ever was dubbing Ressel couldn't settle on either an English or German accent, and his overt feminine looks, I have to admit when he first came on screen, with the way he had been costumed he really did look like a man in drag, does not make an very effective villain. 
         As said before, its Van Cleef as Sabata that saves the movie from being a complete waste of precious celluloid. The film tries to make a statement from the begining that in this film he is different. They substitue his usual pipe smoking for a short cigar aka Clint. He seems a much for friendly and generous type of man in this film and perhaps Cleef feels, and I think looks a bt uncomfortable, when he is gently laughing to the 'humerous' playing of Alley Cat. The thing that I don't like about the character of Sabata (and this isn't down to Cleef) is that he is played as some kind of Superhero. He can throw a coin for some distance and be accuarate, he has an endless array of guns and gadgets and he is seemingly invincible. This adds to the light hearted aspect of the film but for me I didn't like it.
        William Berger's character of Banjo was an annoying loner who played irritating tunes on his banjo, boy was I glad when Sabata took a shot at it and hit. The character, whilst irritating does give some drama and conflict to a story thats lacking because of its inept villain. Berger's smug grin got on my nerves and I couldn't wait for him to disapear off screen, only near the end are we glad to see banjo, but for a different reason.
        Direction was overall tight by Parolini, he seemed to handle most action scenes well, building up tension. Others suffered from being too short or not having enough build up. Editing was of general good quality, as was the cinematography which made excellent use of the Spanish and Italian locations. Music was another low point of the movie, Sabata's theme was OK, but the annoying banjo and the use of very sparse music at other points during the feature hurt the film and allowed it to drag in some places.
      This film can be bought as part of The Sabata Trilogy Collection R1 DVD set which contains the three Sabata films, Sabata, Adios Sabata and Return of Sabata. I believe that the A/V is the same between R1 and R2 but if your a Sabata fan it may be worth buying the R1 set, though R2 buyers be warned, it contains the RCE coding.
      The DVD I watched was the MGM R2 version of the film. The picture quality was great, sharp, good colors, it was a bit muted but I believe that was the style that the director and DP, had chosen, and there was little print damage. The Mono soundtrack was also very good and is offered with German, French and Spanish Mono.
       There are no extras on this DVD, an annoying anti-piracy advert (I am against piracy but you can't skip the bloody thing and its a really rubbish advert) and has poor menu design.
        The film was overall a disapointment for me, Cleef was good but the rest of the film was below average. People who like Sabata will most likely own the R1 or R2 DVD's and will encourage people to watch it. Personally I would only recomend this film to Cleef fans and newcomers who liked the humerous sides of the spaghetti's.

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« Reply #39 on: October 29, 2005, 07:17:13 AM »

I agree on this one never liked it when I first saw it on the big screen, too many gadgets, too much super hero stuff, too much acrobats, if I want this type of stuff I'd watch the TV  show "Wild Wild West", which I really liked, but them I'm watching with a different set of  expectations.

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« Reply #40 on: October 30, 2005, 03:33:58 AM »

I found that the gadgets aspects worked ok in Sabata, but just got too much in "Return".  Funnily enough, I really enjoyed Berger's "Banjo" character.  I would recommend Sabata, but wouln't consider it essential/must view.

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« Reply #41 on: October 30, 2005, 05:26:36 AM »

Shame you didn't like Bergers character Leone Adimrer,and i'm now suffering an identity crisis!!!

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« Reply #42 on: October 30, 2005, 10:51:02 AM »

I must admit to not going into the film in the best of moods, so maybe the humour didn't rub off on me. I'm sure banjo is a cool guy banjo, its just his presentation by the director in the film didn's agree with me so don't have an identity crisis on my account please  Grin
 Marco, this doesn't bode well for tonights experience of Return of Sabata does it? Oh well, roll on tomorow with the mystery spaghetti and Texas Adios

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« Reply #43 on: October 30, 2005, 11:27:17 AM »

i too did not care for BANJO that much myself(SABATA was way cooler). expectations were high for the BANJO character after reading SHOBARY'S review on this movie.
SHOBARY says he is the coolest sw character around. so i went into this film in hopes of seeing this amazing character. and that "amazing" character did not deliver the goods. i dont totally dislike BANJO(in fact i really like  his banjo which doubles into a rifle, i just wish it was used more.) it is just that my expectations were high for him and BERGER never really got off the ground with it. i had a little thought after the movie was finished, i thought it would be nice to have a spin-off of the BANJO character, just to see if he could hold his own in a film where he is the star.

also BANJO  and SABATA'S rivalry didnt really work well in this film. i have seen better in other spag western's.
for example SABBATH and SARTANA'S in A FISTFUL OF LEAD(though this is a much lesser film then SABATA)

but overall BANJO was fine as a character althogh disappointing. i never once found him annoying. unlike that awful mexican character that is always following SABATA around, CARINCHA i think(the guy that throughs the knives). i thought he was incredibly annoying. at one point in the movie he gets shot, i jumped from my seat in applause. but unfortunatly i reserved my applause for a later date cuz the shot hit a silver medal inside his coat causing him to annoy me for the remainder of the movie.


i see u sure didnt care for this film LEONE ADMIRER so ill give u a fair warning on what not to watch.
SARTANA IS COMING TRADE YOURE PISTOL FOR A COFFIN(AKA A FISTFUL OF LEAD)
LIGHT THE FUSE SARTANA IS COMING
and just about every sartana film
and reconsider watching RETURN OF SABATA.(it is definatly not up youre alley)

i mention these films because they are pretty much the same style. very cartoonish. and lots of gadgets, which i happen to like for it makes for a different sw viewing(but i understand why some dont agree with me)

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« Reply #44 on: October 31, 2005, 05:55:03 AM »

Hi Leone Admirer,just emerged back from rehab!!!
     I know this probably taints my objectivity about Sabata but i have fond childhood memories of this movie from the golden days when British tv screened countless SW's.
LVC said that his role as Sabata was akin to playing James Bond out west and on watching his 2 performances its clear he relished the part but,you guessed it,i'm going to concentrate  on William Berger and his Banjo character.When as a kid i first saw Banjo i found him intimidating in much the same way as the best Bond villains.For instance,the build-up in tension in the scene where Banjo plays his tune over and over at a gradually more frantic pace was scary-and you felt that at any minute he was liable to shoot Sabata in the back.This duplicity where you don't quite know what Banjo's motives are or where his allegiances really lie makes him more interesting than your average villain.You don't know whether to love or hate the guy.
Berger was a first rate specialist in playing this untrustworthy type of role and a year before Sabata he played a similar but more ruthless role as Lasky in the first Sartana film again directed by Parolini,and although there are stylistic parelells you may prefer this movie due to a more substantial(sometimes hard to follow) plot,and doesn't include the gimmickry or acrobatics.
      Finally Berger also played similar double-crossing types in the very good No Room to Die and underated Today Its Me,Tommorow its You.
Can anyone recommend to me Sartana in the Valley of Death?

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