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« #75 : October 16, 2016, 01:54:19 PM »

The current issue of CINEMA RETRO has a great piece on this film.

It says something interesting.
Claudia Cardinale appears topless in the trailer but in the film her breasts were optically covered!
Can anyone tell me where to find that trailer? >:D
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The trailer was shown on TV or in theaters or both? Did they allow tits on European TV back then? They still don't allow it today, in USA.


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« #76 : October 16, 2016, 01:55:00 PM »

And btw I have never seen nudity in any trailer, TV or theater.


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« #77 : October 16, 2016, 03:18:01 PM »

The trailer was shown on TV or in theaters or both? Did they allow tits on European TV back then? They still don't allow it today, in USA.

Really?

Nudity is since the early 70s part of TV here. Most likely already earlier.

First only here and there, meanwhile there is nudity all over the place in TV. Not only in the evening, and all kinds of nudity are possible, inclusive pornographic explicitly scenes if it is some kind of art. But no real porn films of course.

Films like Idiots, L'Empire des sens, AntiChrist, 9 Songs or some Catherine Breillat films were shown uncut.

And btw I have never seen nudity in any trailer, TV or theater.

That's even stranger ...

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« #78 : October 16, 2016, 05:49:43 PM »

Mr. SKin says she appears nude int the "uncut Euro version" which is probably a mistake
I have seen French films, mainstream ones from the 50's with female nudity.
so, it is possible that the original THEATRICAL trailer had nudity( we all now that some things in trailers never appear on the film itself}

USA films started in the mid to late 60's. I think THE PAWNBROKER was the first US film to have clear female flesh
Uk 's BLOW-UP has a lot of nudity (1966)
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« : October 16, 2016, 05:52:29 PM uncknown »

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« #79 : October 17, 2016, 12:37:12 AM »

Sooooooo you guys are saying she may be nude in the french version of the film or of the trailer? I bought the film on iTunes the other day, if anyone cares to tell me what scene we're talking about and where it is exactly in the movie (I haven't seen it in ages) I'll be happy to report.



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« #80 : October 17, 2016, 01:11:53 AM »

CC was smart enough never to really expose herself. She believed in fantasy :).

BUT in the trailer there is a very quick flash, when she dresses herself up again. Totally harmless.
In the film it is this two-shot: TC  88:47 - it was darkened for the final release print and maybe even
more so for the Blu-ray version.
Maybe they didn't include the trailer on the BD for that reason? (it is on youtube though,
and although minor quality you still can see what I'm talking about). I have it on 35mm,
maybe I'll scan the bit when I got some time left.



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« #81 : October 17, 2016, 04:17:11 AM »

Mr. SKin says she appears nude int the "uncut Euro version" which is probably a mistake
I have seen French films, mainstream ones from the 50's with female nudity.


There are surprisingly many European films with a bit nudity throughout the 50s. No full frontal nudity though, but female breasts, yes, (and not as bashful as in later Hollywood film), and completely naked from behind.

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« #82 : October 18, 2016, 04:25:08 AM »

It's probably in that sequence, I think in the desert, where she has a shirt or something draped over both shoulders hiding her assets.


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« #83 : October 18, 2016, 05:40:14 AM »

For Spartacus, Kubrick had Jean Simmons nude in the pond/bath scene, possibly planned to cut the scene anyway to appease/bargain with US censors.

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« #84 : October 18, 2016, 12:34:10 PM »

CC was smart enough never to really expose herself. She believed in fantasy :).

BUT in the trailer there is a very quick flash, when she dresses herself up again. Totally harmless.

....it is on youtube though,.


I think I speak for all the horny males on this board when I say that we all were knocked out by CC's heaving bosom in OUTIW
and wanted to see more! :D
The scene as depicted in the You Tube clip (thanks, Mike!) doesn't quite satisfy our/my lustful desires :(

Oh well, we will always have Mariana Hill doing a total striptease in EL CONDOR  >:D O0


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« #85 : October 18, 2016, 08:00:03 PM »

The Pawnbroker was the first film in USA to be released with the Production Code seal of approval and show tits. Soon thereafter, the Code was gone.

By the way, my comments earlier about what can and can't be shown on American TV, were about netwotk TV, not cable TV. Of course, cable TV can show nudity - like TCM shows movies with nudity. But network TV does not show tits.

A TV show called NYPD Blue, sometime around 15 years ago, made headlines by showing naked ass. On network TV, ABC (though it was a 10:00 pm show). So I guess you can occasionally get away wih that. When Schindler's List was shown on network TV, you know inmates in concentration camps are naked shown naked, -'dvsome conservative senators flipped out, it was controversial - though I think that was on PBS, a publicly funded network TV station.

But generally, in 2016, no nudity at all on network TV in USA. IMO that is a good thing. Parents should be able to let their kids  network TV without worrying that they might see nudity.  Though these days, the presidential debates are pretty dirty  ;D


In BLOW UP, back in the mid-60's, I recall reading that a huge deal was made over the possibility that public hair was shown. It was (or wasn't) just for a split second. Was it or wasn't it?? Big debate and controversy. Same with PSYCHO and the question of whether a tit was shown for a split second.
BTW, in PSYCHO, a clear shot of Janet Leigh in a bra (getting ready for the shower) was censored out. I believe that in the opening scene of the movie, there is a shot of her in a bra and an open shirt, which was kept in the movie. But in the deleted shot I am referring to, she takes off her shirt as she gets ready for the shower, and you see her in just a bra and that was censored out. I have seen some earlier movies with women wearing older-style big bras or corsets (KILLER'S KISS), but not sure what was the first American film to even show a clear shot of a woman wearing a modern-style bra with nothing on top of it.

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« #86 : October 18, 2016, 08:37:54 PM »


America is a Puritan country   ;)

speaking of which, Playboy is no longer showing nude photos http://www.etonline.com/news/173873_playboy_to_stop_publishing_nude_photos/


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« #87 : October 19, 2016, 03:54:21 AM »

The Pawnbroker was the first film in USA to be released with the Production Code seal of approval and show tits. Soon thereafter, the Code was gone.

By the way, my comments earlier about what can and can't be shown on Americab TV, were about netwotk TV, not cable TV. Of course, cable TV can show nudity - like TCM shows movies with nudity. But network TV does not show tits.

I know, and what I wrote was about what you call network TV. Full frontal nudity possible at least since the early 70s, and meanwhile also penetration, but of course only as a big exception.


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But generally, in 2016, no nudity at all on network TV in USA. IMO that is a good thing. Parents should be able to let their kids  network TV without worrying that they might see nudity.  

But for me that's strange. Nothing wrong with a bit nudity, and today that is completely anachronistic, as in the net you get everything you want with every possible detail.

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In BLOW UP, back in the mid-60's, I recall reading that a huge deal was made over the possibility that public hair was shown. It was (or wasn't) just for a split second. Was it or wasn't it?? Big debate and controversy.

Hmm, what is public hair?

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« #88 : October 19, 2016, 04:31:28 AM »

Hmm, what is public hair?

The 60's were a simpler time.



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« #89 : October 19, 2016, 10:59:59 AM »

* PUBIC HAIR.  was not supposed to be public  ;) 🇺🇸 (I guess you'd never see pubes in a USA film cuz American women SHAVED! It rook a Brit to export the Bush. No relation to Billy Bush, who, I suspect will join our conversation soon We should change the title of this thread to  "Locker-Room Talk"


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