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« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2005, 04:39:01 AM »

Sure thing Hex.  108, I think. :

$10,000 Blood Money
A Pistol for Ringo
A Town Called Hell
Ace High
Acquasanta Joe
Adios Sabata
An Eye for an Eye (aka Drummer of Vengeance)
And for a Roof a Skyful of Stars
And God Said to Cain
Angry Gun (aka The Return of Ringo)
Any Gun Can Play
Bad Man's River
Ballad of Death Valley (aka Sartana in the Valley of Death)
Bandidos
Belle Starr Story
Between God the Devil and a Winchester
Beyond the Law
Big Gundown
Blind Man
Blood Money (aka Stranger & the Gunfighter)
Bullet for Sandoval
Bullet for the General
Captain Apache
Cemetery Without Crosses
Chapaqua's Gold
Chato's Land
Cjmango
Coffin for the Sherriff
Companeros
Cut Throats Nine
Day of Anger
Deaf Smith and Johnny Ears
Death Played the Flute
Death Rides a Horse
Death Sentence
Death Walks in Laredo
Django
Django Against Sartana
Django Kill.... If You Live, Shoot
Django, Prepare for Execution
Django Shoots First
Django Strikes Again
Django the Bastard (aka The Strangers Gundown) ****
Django the Runner (aka Massacre Time)
El Puro
Face to Face
Find a Place to Die
Fistful of Dollars
Fistful of Dynamite (aka Duck You Sucker)
Five Man Army
For a Few Dollars More
Forgotten Pistolero
Get Mean
God's Gun
Good, the Bad and the Ugly
Grand Duel
Great Silence
Guns for San Sebastian
Hate Thy Neighbour
Heads You Die, Tails I Kill You
Hellbenders
Hills Run Red
I Want Him Dead
Johnny Yuma
Jonathan of the Bears
Keoma
Kill and Pray (aka Requiescant)
Kill Johnny Ringo
Last of the Badmen
Life is Tough, Right Providence?
Long Live Your Death
Man Called Blade (aka Mannaja)
Man Called Sledge
Man, His Pride and His Vengeance
Massacre at Fort Holman
Matalo!
Mercenary (aka A Professional Gun)
Minnesota Clay
My Name is Nobody
Navajo Joe
Once Upon a Time in the West
One Silver Dollar
Pancho Villa 
Payment in Blood (aka Blakes Marauders)
Pistoleros (aka Ballad of a Gunman)
Price of Power
Return of Sabata
Ringo and his Golden Pistol (aka Johnny Oro)
Ringo: Face of Revenge
Ruthless Four
Sabata
Samurai
Sartana, Pray for Your Death
Some Dollars for Django
Son of a Gunfighter
Sonny and Jed
Stranger in Sacramento
Stranger in Town
Stranger Returns
Texas Adios
They Call Him Veritas
They Call Me Trinity
Today its Me.... Tomorrow You
Tramplers
Ugly Ones
Vengeance
Viva Django
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« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2005, 04:43:51 AM »

Marco,Amazon USA seem to have a reasonable selection of videos for sale for round about $5 or a lot less and they only charge $5.49 to post to the UK,so in total it cost me  about £5 in our currency to pay for the Ruthless Four vhs and its postage!!!
I think a paid about £1/£1.50 less than this even  to get Tepepa under the alternate title Blood and Guns,which i see from your list you have yet to obtain.I guess you've heard Tepepa is excellent along with Run,Man,Run and I am Sartana Your Angel of Death. Without checking my own hoard for any more,at least i have 3 titles you haven't got so far!!!

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« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2005, 05:00:16 AM »

Cheers Banjo, I'll check that out - must have alot more than Amazon uk.  I'm sure you won't be disappointed with Ruthless Four.

Certainly Tepepa, Run Man Run and the other Sartana ones are items I am particularly keen to add.  Also, No Room to Die and They Call Him Holy Ghost.

Won a couple more on ebay - Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse and My Name is Pecos.  Damn my obsession  Cheesy

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« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2005, 05:25:27 AM »

I stumbled upon Ruthless Four on IMDB.com by my habit of clicking at random various directers/actors for filmographies and every now and again an obscure title pops up as a video available from US Amazon.
I got No Room To Die from our Ebay seller on the strength of Shobary's review and yes,it's really good ,and Berger and Steffen are excellent.
Tomas Milian is sadistically brilliant as Chaco in Four Horseman of the Apocalypse and for the first hour this film is engaging.However apart from the ok ending,the last half an hour falters real badly with the female lead taking forever to give birth,die in the process accompanied by some endless waffle from townfolk over the baby's naming and fate.

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« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2005, 05:45:41 AM »

No Room to Die was on there (ebay) again last week, but I'm figuring I shouldn't spend anymore money for a month or so!

Usually I'll gamble on anything if there is a good actor in it (Milian, Nero, Berger etc).

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« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2005, 07:23:30 AM »

No Room to Die was on there (ebay) again last week, but I'm figuring I shouldn't spend anymore money for a month or so!

Maybe you should just download it in divx instead of giving your money to "criminals"? Tongue (I of course assume you were going to buy a DVD and not VHS Wink And while there is an original japanese disc available, nobody is selling those in ebay probably because of all the criminals there making prices go low)

EDIT: Oh and I have nothing against buying stuff like Franco's. But Franco's works and most ebay stuff has nothing in common... Made by fans to fans and stuff which can't be bought as originals [although everyone could make their own by buying the required discs and cassettes] versus copies of original discs sold to make profit. I know jerksi sells mostly stuff where he has restored cut scenes or audios, but selling in Ebay seems to me to be a way to make illegal profit (and a nice profit he did seem to make atleast a while ago Wink ).

This outburst brought to you by someone who (once again) got mad at trying to find original discs from ebay and only seeing bootlegs. Wink

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« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2005, 08:59:52 AM »

Hi Marco,surprisingly i do have a few SW that you don't!
Out of my 78( of which i don't include any Euro or USA westerns)i have the 2nd,3rd & 4th Gianni Garko Sartana films,Fistful of Lead,A minute to pray a second to die,Moment to Kill,Chuck Mool,Man of the East,Nobodys the Greatest,Can Be Done,Amigo and the 2 trinity films.
        Sundance,please note that wherever possible i have purchased the official videos and dvds which i tend to either get from Amazon or else 2nd hand off Ebay.I cannot possibly know every SW that is available officially and it is up to the sellers to make these more widely available on places like Amazon which i use because i am confident of my payment security.
        I'm not disputing your comments about the legality of some SW dvd's,but i was lead to believe by an non-Ebay seller of DVD copies that films of a certain age and era are considered part of a golden age and become public domain and therefore not illegal to sell copies.

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« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2005, 10:32:17 AM »

Sundance - I do agree with your principles and, like Banjo, where possible I do buy originals - even some of my japenese ones are original - but I do also buy copies, particularly of films that do not appear to be available elsewhere.  If my machine wasn't so old and clunky, I would download like you recommend, but mine struggles even downloading music  Cheesy

Banjo - Yeah there are quite a few different ones in your list.  I heard at the SWWB that Wild East are meant to be putting out some Sartana films, so I'm looking forward to seeing what they have to offer.

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« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2005, 06:47:23 AM »

Hi Marco,after waiting a month my Ruthless Four vhs arrived today from the USA(via Sweden of all places!!) and i'm looking forward to watching this later.
I see you have the Parolini's original Sartana  but i can highly recommend Giuliano Carmineo's four follow up's in the series(including Fistful of Lead with George Hilton)
which ably emulate the spirit and style of the first film.If you loved(as i did)Bruno Nicolai's soundtrack to Adios Sabata then likewise you will equally enjoy his filmscores in Have a Good Funeral My Friend...Sartana Will Pay and Light the Fuse...Sartana is Coming.
Carmineo's The Moment to Kill(good villain by Horst Franck from the Grand Duel) is along the same lines in style as his later Sartana & Hallelujah films but not quite  up to the same standard ,although the worn out quality of my vhs doesn't help!
A minute to pray,a second to die is an absolute must which includes an excellent Alex Cord as an (we think!!)epiletic gunfighter.
Enzo Barboni's Chuck Mool came out before his comedy SW's with Leonard Mann as an amnesiac but also including the great Woody Strode but i wouldn't rate this film as any more than average.
I know your views about comedy SW's and the other titles mentioned above are all Hill & Spencer vehicles of which the Trinity's are the best.

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« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2005, 01:35:31 PM »

I enjoyed the original Sartana, but didn't completely follow it at times (I blame the wine, as ever!).

I'm looking forward to catching the other Sartana flicks though sometime soon.  Which one would you (or anyone else to that matter!) recommend?

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« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2005, 11:40:47 AM »

Hehe, I have to say the criminal word was anyways maybe too harsh even though they are breaking the law. Wink

        I cannot possibly know every SW that is available officially and it is up to the sellers to make these more widely available on places like Amazon which i use because i am confident of my payment security.

Well, once I get enough time, my site should have a list of every possibly official spaghetti western disc out there. Wink

But I do understand people don't like to use some smaller online shops because of security...
But... I'm not familiar with how things work in other countries, but atleast the company which gives VISA's here will refund every penny that you have spent on things that never arrive. With VISA the online shops are the ones who have to prove they have sent the merchandise AND that the buyer has received it. If the shop can't prove the buyer has received what was ordered, then the buyer will get the money back.

        I'm not disputing your comments about the legality of some SW dvd's,but i was lead to believe by an non-Ebay seller of DVD copies that films of a certain age and era are considered part of a golden age and become public domain and therefore not illegal to sell copies.

I'm not an expert with copyrights but I think they are still copyrighted for a looong looong time unless the copyright owners decide to give them into public domain.

These are from wikipedia.org:

Under the Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works, the signatory states are required to provide copyright protection for a minimum term of the life of the author plus fifty years, but they are permitted to provide for a longer term of protection, and between 1993 and 1996 the European Union provided protection for a term of the author's life plus seventy years

The Berne Convention provided that each contracting state would recognize as copyrighted works created by nationals of other contracting states. The convention requires its signatories to protect the copyright on works of authors from other signatory countries in the same way it protects the copyright of its own nationals.


The Copyright Term Extension Act of 1998 - alternatively known as the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act or the Mickey Mouse Protection Act - extended copyright terms in the United States by 20 years. Before the act, copyright would last until 50 years after the death of the author. After the act, copyright would last until 70 years after the death of the author, while copyrights for works of corporate authorship would last 75 to 95 years. The act also affected copyright terms for copyrighted works published prior to January 1, 1978, increasing their term of protection by 20 years as well. This effectively 'froze' the advancement date of the public domain in the United States for works covered by the older fixed term copyright rules. Under this act, no additional works made in 1923 or after, that were still copyrighted in 1998, will enter the public domain until 2019.


As a consequence of the act, under current law, no copyrighted works will enter into the public domain in the United States until January 1, 2019 at the earliest, when the copyright on works created in 1923 would expire.

Then again I think Russia didn't apply the laws to the works that were made before they accepted the Berne Convention... but then again I think as a signatories they still need to protect the works from other countries? Or not... I got really confused reading the stuff. Cheesy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Literary_and_Artistic_Works

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_copyright_law

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Bono_Copyright_Term_Extension_Act

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« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2005, 02:44:05 PM »

 Cheesy Thanks for the info Sundance.  All this legal stuff is far too complicated for me hehe.

Good site by the way!  Should be a good resource.

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« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2005, 05:46:18 AM »

Thanks for clearing that up Sundance and i'm looking forward to seeing your list!!!
Marco,there's not that much to choose between the 2nd,3rd and 4th Sartana's but on the strength of the Nicolai soundtrack and novel use of a church organ and  also a toy robot, i would recommend Franco Cleef's DVD of Light the Fuse...Sartana is Coming.
In this instance the order in which Shobary rates Carmineo's 4 Sartana's(including a Fistful of Lead) is pretty much spot on.

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« Reply #28 on: October 30, 2005, 03:34:56 AM »

Thanks for the heads up Banjo  Grin

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« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2005, 06:06:12 AM »

Forgot to mention,Marco, i was pretty well pleased with the Ruthless Four video,even though i felt the ok soundtrack was pretty uncharacteristic of Bruno Nicolai who is normally quite Morriconesque.All 4 leads were excellent and its great to see Kinski in a much more substantial role than his usual cameos in these here SW's.
Good storyline with some decent action too!!

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