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« #30 : July 14, 2014, 06:14:04 AM »

All the actors in The Naked Spur are terrific. For me clearly Mann's best western together with Man of the West. So at least the peak of his collaboration with Stewart. Followed by ... uhhh difficult ...

But actually The Man from Laramie is the least of the 5 westerns. Still a good one, like all Mann westerns.
Hmm ... except Cimarron, which has at least some strong scenes amongst the bigbudgetHollywoodrubble.


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« #31 : July 14, 2014, 01:28:14 PM »

All the actors in The Naked Spur are terrific.
They're terrific in other pictures, not here.

Winchester '73 is Mann's best Western, followed closely by Bend of the River.

Man of the West and The Man From Laramie are just so-so (but I've yet to see the latter on BD).

The Naked Spur is a complete POS.



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« #32 : July 15, 2014, 01:18:36 AM »

I enjoy The Naked spur for the acting alone. Stewart and Ryan are terrific. And Meeker and Mitchell are close. Leigh is also good, but her role is not that important. But not superfluous either, as so many other woman roles in westerns.


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« #33 : July 15, 2014, 10:11:39 AM »

I'm not a big fan of rating films with points or thumbs or lists. But one gets tempted when
it comes to Mann & Stewart. Own personal memories overshadow as usual (I saw Winchester 73
as a little boy and was very impressed, starting my film studies at the age of 11 and immediately
comparing this little jewel to so many other early 50s b/w western).

WINCHESTER 73, MAN FROM LARAMIE, NAKED SPUR & THE FAR COUNTRY are the best outcome of their collaboration.

GLENN MILLER I like a lot due to its content, but I guess it belongs to the second half their not-so-great
yet memorable and enjoyable films. Together with BEND OF THE RIVER.
And THUNDERBAY and STRATEGIC AIR COMMAND I don't like much, they could have been directed by anybody
in the 50s (at least that's what I felt when I saw them many years ago).

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« #34 : July 15, 2014, 11:47:13 AM »

Wow, that one for Bend of the River is killer! O0 They're all good, of course, but for that one in particular I'd stand up and salute.



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« #35 : July 16, 2014, 09:49:52 AM »

In defense of The Naked Spur:

To me, it's sort of the template for the Boetticher films: rage filled character on a (outdoor) journey with a love interest who is an integral part of the story which includes a humanized villain, with a wildcard character or two.

I love all the performances and feel like this is one of the best slow-burning (yet fast paced) tension fueled movies out there. Imo films like The Far Country and Bend of the River (though my opinion on the latter could change on an additional view) are much lighter, less complex and remind me of the type of scripts that Henry Hathaway would shoot.



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« #36 : July 16, 2014, 11:22:50 AM »

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To me, it's sort of the template for the Boetticher films: rage filled character on a (outdoor) journey with a love interest who is an integral part of the story which includes a humanized villain, with a wildcard character or two.

That may be so, but the Boetticher films do it so much better.


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« #37 : July 16, 2014, 11:54:48 AM »

They don't.


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« #38 : July 17, 2014, 11:19:41 AM »

They do.



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« #39 : July 23, 2014, 01:10:30 PM »

How are the Boetticher films substantially better? I know they're a bit trimmer, but outside of that...

For what it's worth, The Naked Spur, 7 Men From Now, The Tall T and Ride Lonesome are all 10/10 movies to me.





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« #40 : July 24, 2014, 03:10:51 AM »

For me no Boetticher or Mann film is a 10er. I'm not even sure if there is 9 amongst them. Boetticher definitely not.


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« #41 : July 24, 2014, 02:31:46 PM »

I know numbers are just arbitrary, but how many movies do you think you would consider a 10? Do you have an incredibly strict scale or something? Mann and Boetticher are two of the very best directors ever imo.



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« #42 : July 24, 2014, 03:20:35 PM »

Only few get a 10. Those who make me shiver.
Mann and Boetticher were good directors, but they are not exceptional, not amazing, they had their limits. Ford or Hawks haven't made a 10 film either. Hitchcock has.

8 is already a pretty high rating.


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« #43 : July 25, 2014, 02:16:42 AM »

Ford or Hawks haven't made a 10 film either.


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« #44 : July 25, 2014, 04:27:04 AM »

Oh no no no :)

Even their best films have too much typical Hollywood flaws. Some of their films had the potential to be really great, they had the necessary style and the general inspiration, but they are not pure enough.

Some directors had the creativity and the environment to make 2 or 3 10ers, and these are then the real film artists. No director has made more than 3 (but I have to think about that ...)

Of course these are all, and as always, rather subjective statements.


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