"Maybe next time"

[dave jenkins]

From an interview with Vincenzoni, in Once Upon a Time in Italy (147-148):

In the 1970s, after the Italian Western boom was over, you wrote a sequel to The Good, the Bad and the Ugly.

It was in 1977 or 1978, and it is a very good story. I went to see Eli Wallach and Lee Van Cleef, who were crazy about it. Clint Eastwood would not want to have a part, but maybe he would give us his voice. The director was supposed to be Joe Dante. He liked the treatment and we were going to make a screenplay together. It started one stormy day, in an isolated village. A very tired, starving horse arrives with a very tired man in the saddle. They stop in front of the saloon. The wind whistles. Nobody's around. The man entering the saloon is Eli Wallch--twenty-five years older, with white hair. He arrives at the bar. "Give me scotch." And the bartender says, "Money!" "I need a drink desperately." "No--money!" "Forget it. Listen to me. Have you by any chance seen around a guy--he's tall, blond, with green eyes, he smokes a cigar, and he's an incredible son of a bitch." And the bartender says, "No--I haven't seen this man." Okay. He goes out, and the horse is there dying on the ground. He says, "Please don't die now," and he tries to pick up the horse, but the horse won't get up. He is tired. Eventually, the horse gets up; he jumps on and disappears into the night with the wind. The wind whistles. Now the camera goes around a corner, and there is Lee Van Cleef--the twin brother of the other Lee Van Cleef--who is watching this man. And the wind blows this piece of newspaper under the boot of Lee Van Cleef. He picks it up. And there is a picture of Clint Eastwood, smiling, with a wide Stetson: "On Sunday our mayor will be married to Miss Rosemary Whoever." We discover now the face of Lee Van Cleef, the twin brother. Now the Bad knows where he is going. He jumps on the horse and rides after the Ugly. The second scene is Eli Wallach with the horse that just arrived at the little town--and died because it was too tired. And all over this little town are posters with the picture of Clint Eastwood and saying: "Our beloved mayor, who died because somebody shot him," etc. So we don't need Clint Eastwood in the movie! Eli Wallach has found him, but too late. Now he goes to the cemetery, because he knows he's  buried in it, and there is a tombstone: a cross with the famous poncho, the hat of Clint, even with the cigar--which is smoking. It is a little piece of iron in the cross, and there's this cigar with smoke. Now he hears somebody coming. He hides himself behind a tree, and a young kid--blond, good-looking--arrives, changes the cigar, and lights it. He says, "Daddy,"--or "Uncle," or whatever--"I have done what you suggested. I converted all our property into cash money, and I went East and invested it all in the railroads. I will return, I hope, once a year to visit you. Pardon me, your cigar has gone out." He lights his cigar. Puff. "Goodbye for now." And as the young fellow turns to go, Eli Wallach comes out from behind the tree, and from the tombstone we hear the voice of Clint Eastwood say to the boy, "Be careful, son, because the world is full of sons of bitches and they are always on your back." Now the young guy disappears. Eli Wallach follows him, and from behind another tree come out the twin of Lee Van Cleef. This is the beginning of the movie. I wrote it over twenty years ago, and now Eli is eighty years old. I suppose it is unlikely to be produced now. Anyway...

The old twin idea, once again! The question then is, Is this second LVC the Colonel, or are we talking triplets in the Mortimer family?

[cigar joe]

Glad it never got made, sounds sort of contrived to me anyway, bout what you'd expect of somebody trying to cash in on GBU.

[dave jenkins]

Yeah, I expected better from Vincenzoni. Did he really write GBU?

[The Firecracker]

From an interview with Vincenzoni, in Once Upon a Time in Italy (147-148):
The old twin idea, once again! The question then is, Is this second LVC the Colonel, or are we talking triplets in the Mortimer family?

what would the third brother be called? And is he evil?

[Sonny]

I'd rather see a prequel to GBU depicting the criminal adventures of Angel Eyes and Tuco.

Yeah!! No screen action for Blondie in that one.

Once again society descriminates against "the good"....ain't that always the way

Anyway, maybe TWO prequels would be good to portray both characters, each one on a seperate film of course. But then again, the two could certainly make it more enjoyable in one movie.  Either way, i'd go for the idea.

[The Firecracker]

Anyway, maybe TWO prequels would be good to portray both characters, each one on a seperate film of course. But then again, the two could certainly make it more enjoyable in one movie.  Either way, i'd go for the idea.

Maybe Tuco can take a hike half-way through the film to introduce Blondie to Angel Eyes.

Remember, Blondie doesn't know Tuco before the events of GBU.

[Sonny]

Remember, Blondie doesn't know Tuco before the events of GBU.

that's precisely why Blondie should be excluded from the prequel.  That would make his appearance in GBU all the more interesting.

[poderator]

Blondie as a mayor!!!I think this is the most idiotic idea about GBU sequel of all time! Man with No Name to became the part of the upper class? That would be against everything that Sergio established in his dollar trilogy. This script reminded me on couple of Terence Hill and Bud Spencer movies.  It would be comic western, and it would cast a shadow on GBU. Thank god they didn't made a sequel! And thank Sergio for movie that came after this  he, he, he....

[The Firecracker]

I always thought an animated sequel or prequel would suffice.
The animation can be rotoscoped throughout the movie.

[Jill]

This sequel sounds very gooood! 

Who knows, maybe Mrs. Mortimer had triplets... 

[dave jenkins]

what would the third brother be called? And is he evil?

Well, what was Angel Eyes called? You don't think mama Mortimer christened her boy AE, do you?

As to whether the third brother might be evil, I say, no, just ugly. That would give us The Good (Col. Douglas Mortimer), The Bad (Angel Eyes) and The Ugly (Brother #3). Obviously he's had some kind of accident that's scarred him or something. Anyone want to come up with a name for #3?

[The Firecracker]

Well, what was Angel Eyes called? You don't think mama Mortimer christened her boy AE, do you?

Sentenza might be his real name.

I have heard worse names.
 cough*Mortimer*cough

[The Peacemaker]

Sentenza might be his real name.

Probably not.


In Italian sentenza means "judgement."

[The Firecracker]

Probably not.


In Italian sentenza means "judgement."

or Sentence.

Like I said. I have heard worse names.

I know a guy named "Segundo" which is "second" in spanish.

[The Peacemaker]

or Sentence.

Like I said. I have heard worse names.

I know a guy named "Segundo" which is "second" in spanish.

Yeah that's true.

I once knew a girl named "princess."