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« #45 : February 12, 2007, 04:26:52 PM »

I think it's a great movie, but it tries too hard to be thoughtful and deep. 

too me, its not that it tried too hard to be "thoughtful and deep" but that it failed to create the necessary depth for this story. 


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« #46 : February 12, 2007, 06:05:34 PM »

If Sergio Leone was alive long enough to have seen Clint Eastwood's Unforgiven, in your opinion, what would be Leone's first reactions to this masterpiece?

If Leone was alive in 2000 he would have said "I liked Space Cowboys more"   :)

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« #47 : February 12, 2007, 07:08:16 PM »

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Okay, I'll follow your line and take Clint out of the Dollars films in my mind. I find that by substituting Bronson back in, the pictures work quite well. They're different, but still amazing works of art. Same if I fill the lead roles with any number of other candidates.

  Excellent point, dave.  Bronson has always been known for his stone-face performances, but even in OUATITW, Harmonica displays some humor, and Bronson delivers a lot of those paradoxical one-liners perfectly.  Sure, it would have been different to see someone other than Eastwood in the Dollars trilogy (just imagine Fonda or Coburn), but because of Leone's direction, I don't believe they'd miss a beat.

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« #48 : February 12, 2007, 08:48:58 PM »

hahahaaha you guys are hilarious. I don't get how a movie that you think has so many flaws would win Best Picture. I don't believe that the Academy just gave it to Clint Eastwood because he was old and in the twilight of his career at the time. I trully believe the movie was well deserving of the title of Best Picture that year. It's such a powerful film.




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« #49 : February 12, 2007, 08:55:13 PM »

hahahaaha you guys are hilarious. I don't get how a movie that you think has so many flaws would win Best Picture. I don't believe that the Academy just gave it to Clint Eastwood because he was old and in the twilight of his career at the time. I trully believe the movie was well deserving of the title of Best Picture that year. It's such a powerful film.



eh.. awards mean very little to me... especially seeing how many deserving films have been passed over. many of the passed over films deserve the awards the most...

we're talking opinions here anyway, just because something wins an award doesn't make it worth anything to someone who it just doesn't click for.. personally, i trust the opinions of the dedicated fans of the genre more than a panel of "judges" any day


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« #50 : February 12, 2007, 09:00:25 PM »

Once Upon a Time in the West is my favorite movie, so you have a point there with Bronson but Unforgiven is still a great achievment. I just think some of you are insane. lol




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« #51 : February 12, 2007, 09:05:16 PM »

and as a side thought..

if it works for you, then fuck it.. there's no need to convince us its a masterpiece.

there's plenty of film buffs that look down their noses at us spaghetti fans  O0


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« #52 : February 12, 2007, 10:27:02 PM »

and as a side thought..

if it works for you, then ****** it.. there's no need to convince us its a masterpiece.

there's plenty of film buffs that look down their noses at us spaghetti fans  O0

HAHA, that's true. I respect your opinion either way.




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« #53 : February 13, 2007, 04:35:51 PM »

there's plenty of film buffs that look down their noses at us spaghetti fans  O0

They're called dickheads.  ;D



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« #54 : February 13, 2007, 05:15:48 PM »

They're called dickheads.  ;D

HAHAHAHA. Damn right!!! O0




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« #55 : February 17, 2007, 01:37:42 PM »

TucumcariBound65, all you have to do is rent or buy Rawhide first season and see the type of character Eastwood played back then BL (Before Leone) its the same with Van Cleef all their parts were pretty type cast.


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« #56 : February 17, 2007, 01:51:18 PM »

TucumcariBound65, all you have to do is rent or buy Rawhide first season and see the type of character Eastwood played back then BL (Before Leone) its the same with Van Cleef all their parts were pretty type cast.

cigar joe, it's funny you mention that about Rawhide. Lately I've been meaning to pick up the first season. I've been dying to watch the first season.




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« #57 : July 06, 2007, 02:47:10 PM »

I didn't bother reading the four pages of replies, but I will say that I have grown to love Unforgiven after watching it twice. I am one of the few people of my age group (according to IMDB) to enjoy this film. And the musical score is good too.

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« #58 : July 06, 2007, 09:22:38 PM »

The score is one of the things I don't like about the film. Another is the casting. Another is the writing. It has its good points: the digression with English Bob works well, largely because it IS a digression. Gives the whole more of an epic (ie. Leonean) feel. Some nice photography as well. But it's too talky, too PC, too earnest. And Hackman ruins everything he touches (3 films excepted).



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« #59 : July 06, 2007, 10:15:19 PM »

The score is one of the things I don't like about the film. Another is the casting. Another is the writing. It has its good points: the digression with English Bob works well, largely because it IS a digression. Gives the whole more of an epic (ie. Leonean) feel. Some nice photography as well. But it's too talky, too PC, too earnest. And Hackman ruins everything he touches (3 films excepted).

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