No, that was McQueen. He also cut out a few scenes, most likely to make his role bigger. Things stars do when they become too big ... That Jones score from The Getaway does the film a bad favor.And the Knockin on Heaven's Door scene is with or without music or lyrics a very intensive scene, but it is the most intensive with the lyrics.
So the relationship between McQueen and Sam was conflictive?
So, is the 73 release- the ONLY definitive one for me
The main problems of the 2005 cut:- wrong music transition after the first Jason Robards scene (terrible)- wrong music used for the wonderful "raft" scene- KNOCKIN' song- Whitey Hughes death is shortened (?)- Sam's scene is shortened (?)- One of my favorite lines was deleted ("What you want and what you get are two different things!) ?
I don't remember at the moment who Whitey Hughes is, and I'm not sure about the 2 score things, but your points 3, 5 and 6 are all following the theatrical version,and I assume your points 1, 2 and 4 are also taken from the theatrical cut, and that's what I said: The 2005 cut uses the theatrical cut as basis with most of the deleted scenes added.For me the shortened parts are no problem, and the Knockin song should be the first thing added to the work print. It is difficult to watch these scene without the lyrics, I'm too much used to them, and they intensify the scene so much.Hmm, the score for the raft scene is not the same in all versions? I never noticed that.
Next, the movie moved along at a long, slow pace with no plot development. Yes, it was a simple story but it was predictable and boring.
Funny question, what is the story or the plot of the film?
As I have stated earlier in this thread, Paulita and Pete Maxwell are distant relatives of my family. This lead me to have high hopes for the movie. My first gripe is Kristofferson as the lead. His performance itself wasn't bad. The problem is his inclusion set the tone of the movie to more of a pretentious television affair. His background being in music prevented me from taking this thing seriously. Bob Dylan's inclusion didn't help. Next, the movie moved along at a long, slow pace with no plot development. Yes, it was a simple story but it was predictable and boring. Peckinpah crammed a long list of western actors into this and it was a waste. The best scene was Katy Jurato and her scenes at the ambush. James Coburn was well cast and did a fabulous job. The rest of it doesn't measure up in my opinion. Peckinpah made two western masterpieces, Ride the High Country and The Wild Bunch. This was nowhere near that level. 6 out of 10...