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« : April 09, 2006, 06:38:03 PM »

Cheyenne is being brought to Yuma by train, the same train that Mr. Morton and gang travel by, yet the railroad had just barely reached Sweetwater. Then how did they think he'd get transported to the prison in Yuma? And to add to the same error, Cheyennes men that ask for the ticket "to the next station, one way only" but the next station was sweetwater, still in construction!

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« #1 : April 09, 2006, 10:14:11 PM »

  I might be wrong here, but I think its different trains.  Cheyenne is put on one train, his gang attacks the train and frees him, and then they ride and attack Morton's train.  Now that I write it out, I'm not so sure, but I think that's right.

  Sorry about your other questions, I'm not sure.  But you do bring up some interesting ideas.

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« #2 : April 10, 2006, 01:23:02 AM »

No Tim I think they put him in Morton's train. otherwise why would they just attack Morton's train for no apparent reason?




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« #3 : April 10, 2006, 05:40:04 AM »

Well if you want to rationalise it we have to assume  that there already was a spur line north to Flagstone from the Southern Pacific RR that ran through Yuma across Southern Arizona To El Paso and points east. So there was a spur to the South and the AP Morton RR.

Which is not unusual, Montana's first RR was a spur North from the Union Pacific that ran through Utah. way Before the 3 "transcontinental" RR's  crossed the State East To West. The Three were the Northern Pacific, The Great Northern, and the Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific.


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« #4 : April 10, 2006, 07:52:36 AM »

OK, cigar joe, your reasoning seems to be good enough, although I find it a little strange that Morton's train would go a different route than the route that is being constructed near Sweetwater. But to another subject: when Frank arrives at the train, there are corpses all over the place but we never see so many people with Morton at any time in the film, and I assume they're all Frank's men anyway, but even Frank never had such a large gang, plus the ones he'd just killed in Flagstone, plus the five Harmonica killed, where d'you think they came from?

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« #5 : April 10, 2006, 04:07:56 PM »

OK, cigar joe, your reasoning seems to be good enough, although I find it a little strange that Morton's train would go a different route than the route that is being constructed near Sweetwater. But to another subject: when Frank arrives at the train, there are corpses all over the place but we never see so many people with Morton at any time in the film, and I assume they're all Frank's men anyway, but even Frank never had such a large gang, plus the ones he'd just killed in Flagstone, plus the five Harmonica killed, where d'you think they came from?
The corpses include all of Cheyenne's gang, and we never get an idea about how big that group is until that scene.



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« #6 : April 10, 2006, 04:36:50 PM »

Cheyenne was taken to Yuma on a public train. You can see all the passengers getting on at the station. Besides, they wouldn't escort a notorious criminal on the railroad baron's private train. That's just asking for trouble!


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« #7 : April 10, 2006, 04:43:47 PM »

Cheyenne was taken to Yuma on a public train. You can see all the passengers getting on at the station. Besides, they wouldn't escort a notorious criminal on the railroad baron's private train. That's just asking for trouble!

great reasoning. I myself always found it strange that they would transport cheyenne on morton's train.

but then  why would cheyenne's men attack Morton's train for?




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« #8 : April 10, 2006, 05:01:21 PM »

Because he's the one who's been trying to off Jill, and you know how Cheyenne feels about her.



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« #9 : April 10, 2006, 05:02:27 PM »

Cheyenne always had a dislike for Morton and it is very clear in the scene where Cheyenne rescues Harmonica from the train. It's also because Cheyenne is in love with Jill and wants to protect her from the land-grabbing " snail. "


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« #10 : April 10, 2006, 05:03:22 PM »

Because he's the one who's been trying to off Jill, and you know how Cheyenne feels about her.
but Frank is the real threat. not Mr. Choo Choo.
why waste time on a guy in a wheel chair who cannot shoot straight?




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« #11 : April 10, 2006, 05:04:09 PM »

Yeh but Harmonica already called dibs on him.


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« #12 : April 10, 2006, 05:04:47 PM »

Yeh but Harmonica already called dibs on him.

not by cheyenne's understanding.




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« #13 : April 10, 2006, 05:06:27 PM »

Possibly, remember Harmonica says to him " There's another bastard and he's getting further away every minute. "


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« #14 : April 10, 2006, 05:08:40 PM »

Possibly, remember Harmonica says to him " There's another bastard and he's getting further away every minute. "

that was just a warning that Frank is getting away. He wasnt saying "he is mine!!!!"




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