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« on: August 31, 2005, 02:47:22 AM »

Any location fans out there who can help me with this:
I'm trying to find the 'cave-location' from 'Duck you Sucker', this was supposedly shot at a real location in
Rome, Italy...
Anyone have details on this place??
Spaghettifan, Germany

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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2005, 07:44:23 AM »

There is a photo of this location on the bonus disk of the restored DVD set. It only shows the exterior, however, as it is completely borded up. I can't remember if the image is captioned with it's where abouts, and I don't have the DVD here to check, I'm afraid.

It was based on the notorious Nazi massacre at the the Ardeatine Caves, near Rome.

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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2005, 08:58:40 AM »

wasn't it based on a painting of the massacre?

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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2005, 05:36:24 PM »

wasn't it based on a painting of the massacre?
This is a film full of massacres. The one you are thinking of, Shearer 9, comes later in the film, after Villega has betrayed his entier revolutionary cell, and John watches the firing squads at work, at night in the rain.

The scene is lit by the lamps of some trucks, and was inspired by Goya's painting from a scene he witnessed in the Napolionic wars in Spain and Portugal: THE THIRD OF MAY, 1808.

(Leone returns to this vision in ONCE UPON A TIME IN AMERICA, when Noodles thinks he sees Max dead in the rain with his friends).

The scene in the cave is based on a real SS massacre, just ouside Rome in 1944.

The more I think about it, the more I wonder if this entire sequence was shot on a Cinecitta set, and the image of the boarded up cave on the DVD was the actual scene of the Nazi atrocity? As I have posted earlier, in terms of focus pulling it is an extremely sophisticated shot. Also, the perfect way Coburn is lit as he exits the scene yet again suggests a studio set.

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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2005, 09:33:27 PM »

I am wondering, are these the same caves and hills from the first story in Bertolucci's La Commare Secca with the thieves?

The way Bertolucci photographed those scenes was breathtaking, especially when you see the city in the background and realise that you're on very high hills.

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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2005, 11:16:39 PM »

Juan, have you seen "a town called death"? Bit off topic but it starts with that exact same shot, an obvious Leone reference so I started watching and it was horrific, one fo the worst films I've seen in a long time

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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2005, 08:59:05 AM »

Juan, have you seen "a town called death"?

Years ago I saw a film called A TOWN CALLED BASTARD, with Stella Stevens and Telly Savalas. I think this was the same film you mention, but with a re-title for the squeemish, present day. Yet another of countless examples of how much more extreme the 70's were, compared to now.

And yes, its was absolute, bloody awful rubbish.

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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2006, 02:30:48 PM »

Any location fans out there who can help me with this:
I'm trying to find the 'cave-location' from 'Duck you Sucker', this was supposedly shot at a real location in
Rome, Italy...
Anyone have details on this place??
Spaghettifan, Germany

I always thought the interior of the grotto sequence was a set in cinecitta.

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