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« : July 19, 2006, 02:31:03 PM »

was reading through the reviews of "Giu La Testa" on imdb and somebody brought up a good point...

the scene where the two trains collide there is no way in hell that the revolutionaries would be right there ready to shoot down any survivors of the crash. It is damn near impossible to calculate where those two trains will collide.
I would have never noticed this if it had not been for the reviewer who pointed it out.


did anybody else notice this?




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« #1 : July 19, 2006, 02:45:46 PM »

It never crossed my mind. Totally improbable...highly unlikely...next to impossible!
They would need to know:
A) Speeds of both trains
B) Distance between trains at any given time

Good observation ???

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« #2 : July 19, 2006, 02:47:02 PM »



Good observation ???
not by me.
either way it doesnt deter my enjoyment of the film. And that whole set piece of the off-tracked trains is marvelous.




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« #3 : July 19, 2006, 04:23:21 PM »

It never crossed my mind. Totally improbable...highly unlikely...next to impossible!
They would need to know:
A) Speeds of both trains
B) Distance between trains at any given time

Good observation ???

Sounds like an old Algebra problem.

If one train is carrying government troops with Juan and John traveling at 55 mph and another government troop train is traveling 45 mph, where will the revolutionaries attack?   ;D


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« #4 : July 19, 2006, 04:47:10 PM »

Sounds like an old Algebra problem.

If one train is carrying government troops with Juan and John traveling at 55 mph and another government troop train is traveling 45 mph, where will the revolutionaries attack?   ;D
NICE ONE! ;D  But Juan nor John were on the trains when they collided together.




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« #5 : July 20, 2006, 11:49:28 AM »

I did notice it but just forgot about it until it was brought up here.

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« #6 : July 20, 2006, 02:35:18 PM »

NICE ONE! ;D  But Juan nor John were on the trains when they collided together.


I know, but before they jumped they were on the train.   ;)


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« #7 : July 20, 2006, 06:52:31 PM »

Juan was never even on the train :-P

I noticed this the last few times. What I always wondered was this - How did they turn the locomotive around?

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« #8 : July 20, 2006, 07:06:24 PM »

Juan was never even on the train :-P

I noticed this the last few times. What I always wondered was this - How did they turn the locomotive around?

I don't remember that.


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« #9 : July 29, 2006, 04:10:34 PM »

Juan was never even on the train :-P


Juan WAS in the passenger car while the group was planning their strategy, however, Juan was not in the locomotive prior to the collision.

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« #10 : July 29, 2006, 10:00:14 PM »

Juan WAS in the passenger car while the group was planning their strategy, however, Juan was not in the locomotive prior to the collision.
he was outside with the rebels.




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« #11 : August 01, 2006, 06:15:29 PM »

  This won't give an answer about the precise inch they needed to hit so they could collide with Ruiz's train, but it might explain some of it.

  When they're planning the attack, they're outside near the field with the brick/stone walls.  One of the revolutionaries says that Ruiz's train will be there in about three hours so they could judge where they needed to be.  All they needed to do was back the train up a couple of miles and they could judge about when the 2 trains would meet.  It seemed like a big field (John's line about the emptiness of the land) and the revolutionaries could always move some to hit the train after the collision.

  I know that's not a perfect answer, but maybe we're just overthinking it.  And like Firecracker said, it doesn't take away any enjoyment of the movie.  Just one of those things you have to accept if you're gonna enjoy a movie.

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« #12 : August 02, 2006, 01:31:11 PM »

I noticed this the last few times. What I always wondered was this - How did they turn the locomotive around?
Did they? I'll have to look at that scene again to make sure. Of course, they wouldn't have to turn it around: an engine can push as well as pull, and it takes the same amount of energy to do either. SL might have taken some artistic license showing the two engines on collision course, because it's more dramatic that way. But if the engine was in back there was less chance that Viellga would get killed by the collision, so I guess it WAS necessary for the train to get turned around. Ha! Another moment of movie logic; well spotted, Peacemaker.



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« #13 : August 02, 2006, 03:20:55 PM »

Did they? I'll have to look at that scene again to make sure. Of course, they wouldn't have to turn it around: an engine can push as well as pull, and it takes the same amount of energy to do either. SL might have taken some artistic license showing the two engines on collision course, because it's more dramatic that way. But if the engine was in back there was less chance that Viellga would get killed by the collision, so I guess it WAS necessary for the train to get turned around. Ha! Another moment of movie logic; well spotted, Peacemaker.

Actually that was Poggle who said that. I appreciate the compliment but I hate taking credit for the work of others.


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« #14 : August 02, 2006, 04:22:19 PM »

Oops! Well, I knew the name started with a "P". Sorry, Poggle.



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