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Question: Which of the Western tv series were the best?
Rawhide   -3 (50%)
Gunsmoke   -1 (16.7%)
Bonanza   -1 (16.7%)
Other   -1 (16.7%)
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« on: July 28, 2006, 07:19:36 PM »

Is it any good? I'm thinking of getting it on netflix. I'll probably get it regardless of what you say. But I'd just like to know your opinions on it.

EDIT: I added a poll to see which ones you guys like the most. I can see Gunsmoke or Bonanza any time I want because they're always on TVland. Of the two that I've seen, I prefer Gunsmoke. But I won't vote until I've seen Rawhide.

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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2006, 07:23:01 PM »

Is it any good? I'm thinking of getting it on netflix. I'll probably get it regardless of what you say. But I'd just like to know your opinions on it.

It's not good. It's a cheap all-American thing, barely any violence. And Clint is in it but no anti-hero tough guy role!

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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2006, 07:33:05 PM »

It's not good. It's a cheap all-American thing, barely any violence. And Clint is in it but no anti-hero tough guy role!

I used to watch this all the time when I was a kid, used to lay in front of the TV and pretend I was camping out (there were a lot of camping scenes in the show) with the drovers. Eric Flemming played Gil Favor the Trail Boss, Clint was Rowdy Yates, the ramrod, and Paul Brinnegar was Whisbone the cook, I enjoyed it had a lot of trail shots of cattle, not a whole lot of shootouts more drama.

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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2006, 08:00:09 PM »

I knew that there was hardly any violence. I heard about somewhere how it was a departure from other western series because it was more character-driven than violence-driven.

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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2006, 08:51:51 PM »

CJ, what did you think when you first saw Eastwood in a Leone film?

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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2006, 09:10:37 PM »

Well let me go into more detail, it was like a buddy flick but there were a lot of buddies. Besides Gil, Rowdy, and Whisbone in the core crew you had John Ireland as Jed Colby,  Mushy Mushgrove (Wishbone's not to bright helper), Jesus (Hey-soos) the vaquero, Pete Nolan and Jim Quince both good drovers, and the rest of the crew. There was a lot of good times and funny incidents provided by Mushy & Wishbone. You got to know everybody almost like family.

It wasn't town bound so you had a lot of stories set about cattle driving and what hardships and problems they encountered  on the trail (water, weather, indians, etc.) all with good action sequences of cattle driving, stampedes, etc., etc., occasionally they met various travelers, traders, peddlers, craftsmen, on the plains and they would interact or travel with the chuckwagon and provide the story, sometimes they would have to hit a nearby town for supplies and have encounters good and bad, so it was a very fluid story every week. And they always had new hands taking the place of the some of the lesser hands as they either quit, got killed off, or retired.

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Well you know that is how good Leone was at casting against type, cause I actually did not recognize Eastwood in his "Mysterious Stranger" role, on Rawhide he played an easy going lightweight while Eric Flemming played the tough as nails Trail Boss, Joe, Manco, Blondie, are tough hombres.

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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2006, 09:17:27 PM »

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You mean you saw Blondie (I presume GBU was your first Leone) and didn't realize it was the same actor you knew as playing Rowdy Yates? How long did it take you to realize that?

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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2006, 09:24:07 PM »

Actually I saw For A Few Dollars More first, and I didn't figuer it out until I read about who Eastwood was, I never recognized him in the film when I saw it.

If you ever see Rawhide you'll undestand, he plays a completely different character.

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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2006, 09:56:21 PM »

Oh, I surely will if I get the chance. Actually it's been years I tried to find some "Rawhide" show. Now that is out on dvd it will be easy.

Can I ask you your first reactions to FFDM?

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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2006, 07:55:53 AM »

My cousin & I used to go see films and watch a lot of TV westerns the coolest western we saw up to seeing the first SW was "Nevada Smith" with Steve McQueen. One summer weekend in 1967 I was checking the films in the cinema section of a local paper and saw this add for FAFDM and the picture of the poncho wearing cigar smoking bad ass looked cool, who the hell paid attention to names (I didn't even have a clue who Clint was ) So we went to see it and were blown away by the style the  coolness and the music.

I think that when I statred to read about the film I then read that it was Eastwood.

In Rawhide he smiled a lot in his easy going second banana role.

We went orve first viewing of a Leone Film quite awhile ago , I did a search but this thread is similar, but its not the right one.

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http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=36.0

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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2006, 09:31:45 AM »

Maybe this:

http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=2127.0


But you're not there to be found. I remember that you posted  something about you and your cousin going to see GBU, that's why I thought that was your first Leone.

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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2006, 05:58:26 PM »

no I saw that  thread, it was a long time ago maybe back as far as 2002.

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« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2006, 12:15:12 AM »

I caught a couple episodes of Rawhide on the Hallmark channel when they were doing a 4th of July marathon. Hadn't ever seen it before, but from what I saw I really liked it. I'm planning on getting the DVD soon. Havent seen much of Gunsmoke or Bonanza, I sometimes catch a few minutes of them on TVLand but never feel compelled to keep watching, while during the Rawhide marathon, I came in mid-episode and was intrigued enough by just a few seconds to finish the episode.

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« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2006, 02:41:21 AM »

"The Rifleman" was a damn good show.

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« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2006, 11:11:56 AM »

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  I'll second that, Firecracker.  It's funny, I'm watching Wanted: Dead or Alive Season 1, and they're using the same set from The Rifleman, North Fork, as countless different western towns.  All they do is switch the hotel sign or the sheriff's office so that we thinks it's a new town every episode.

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