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« : August 01, 2006, 01:49:00 PM »

Maybe my ears are playing tricks on me, but when I listen to the Italian dub of GBU and we get to the first hanging scene, it sounds like Blondie is saying that Tuco's alias is "il porco". That would be "the pig," right? Or am I hearing wrong? Titoli?



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« #1 : August 01, 2006, 05:30:24 PM »

I think this was addressed before, and it was decided that in Italian Tuco was "the pig".

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« #2 : August 02, 2006, 01:08:24 AM »

Right now I was just mumbling to myself "Porco! Porco!" just seconds before clicking on this thread :o

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« #3 : August 02, 2006, 11:38:45 AM »

Somewhere on IMDB, maybe the "goofs" section, Tuco is called the rat. "When the rat is..." And I had to think, who? Oh ya! Tuco!

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« #4 : August 02, 2006, 11:48:34 AM »

Somewhere on IMDB, maybe the "goofs" section, Tuco is called the rat. "When the rat is..." And I had to think, who? Oh ya! Tuco!

That's true, I always thought that " alias the rat " would be something on-going like Firecracker said. But the line is quick and pointless.


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« #5 : August 02, 2006, 01:12:12 PM »

I wouldn't say it was pointless. It's a throwaway, but it IS funny.



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« #6 : August 02, 2006, 05:37:26 PM »

Wallach does give Tuco some rodent like characteristics, the way he gnaws craftily at food and cigars, his twitchy behavour, his preening and more than anything, his impossibly white teeth.

In most English speaking cultures though, calling somebody a "pig" isn't much of an insult, indeed some folk would revel in the sorbique (John Belushi types mostly). To be called a "rat" though, them's fightin' words.


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« #7 : August 02, 2006, 10:15:18 PM »

I would think in English, at least American English, being called a pig is either because you're eating a lot of food, or you're a cop. Rat seems an appropriate change for the language barrier.



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« #8 : August 06, 2006, 10:47:20 AM »

you would think it would be an on-going gag in the film (Tuco's wanted poster says "aka the rat" etc.) but the line is only sputtered once and then its forgotten about.

If you don't take in count Blondie speaking about him in the desert like about "the same filthy rat as you are" or something like that, I don't remember properly - but the rat is surely mentioned here.



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« #9 : August 06, 2006, 01:16:42 PM »

If you don't take in count Blondie speaking about him in the desert like about "the same filthy rat as you are" or something like that, I don't remember properly - but the rat is surely mentioned here.


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« #10 : August 06, 2006, 01:21:22 PM »


"if you kill me you'll always be poor...just like the greasy rat that you are".

From that point on, it was Tuco's duty to make sure Blondie stayed alive.


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« #11 : August 06, 2006, 11:58:04 PM »

That's what I had in mind. Maybe not too much, but it seems that Tuco really is such rat...



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« #12 : August 07, 2006, 10:20:29 AM »

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Maybe not too much, but it seems that Tuco really is such rat...

  But a likable rat.  I think that's the brilliance of Wallach's performance as Tuco.  Even after we hear all the crimes he's committed and he doublecrosses everyone around him, I still like his character.  Of course, there's some pity involved cause nothing ever seems to go right for him, but all things considered, Tuco is a "likable rat."

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« #13 : August 07, 2006, 02:18:55 PM »

  But a likable rat.  I think that's the brilliance of Wallach's performance as Tuco.  Even after we hear all the crimes he's committed and he doublecrosses everyone around him, I still like his character.  Of course, there's some pity involved cause nothing ever seems to go right for him, but all things considered, Tuco is a "likable rat."

Agree. ;)



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« #14 : August 07, 2006, 03:04:03 PM »

yes a likeable rat !


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