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« on: August 12, 2006, 02:21:31 PM »

Ultra rare western that influenced OUATITW heavily goes on TCM after Winchester '73...




The Last Sunset!

I'm going to tape it!!

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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2006, 06:10:02 PM »

Well, I saw the Last Sunset...












It sucked.   Sad

It was interesting at first, then it got boring, then at the end it was just wierd. They say that the showdown scene of OUATITW is almost exactly like the showdown in this crap. There was very little in common except for the circling around the enemy.

Though, the ending of this film inspired something at the end of Companeros.   Wink

But I hope no one else took my advice, this movie was crap.

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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2006, 06:20:34 PM »

  I wouldn't say it sucked, but it could have been a lot better, especially given the cast.  I agree though that it started off pretty well but went downhill after Joseph Cotten met his maker.

  How about that twist, Peacemaker?!  I guess I should have seen that coming, but didn't.  And I liked the touch with Douglas' gun at the final showdown.

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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2006, 06:24:46 PM »

  I wouldn't say it sucked, but it could have been a lot better, especially given the cast.  I agree though that it started off pretty well but went downhill after Joseph Cotten met his maker.

  How about that twist, Peacemaker?!  I guess I should have seen that coming, but didn't.  And I liked the touch with Douglas' gun at the final showdown.

The twist was interesting...but it was just sooooo wrong!

After Cotten left the movie did go downhill. Did you notice that the end of Companeros is just like this?

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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2006, 06:28:40 PM »

  I did notice that Peacemaker.  You can see how this movie had some influence on spaghettis, but like we both said, it just wasn't that good overall.  It felt like I was watching it for 4 or 5 hours instead of two.

  I was disappointed that it wasn't shown in widescreen either.  It looked like a movie that would have been benefited from that instead of the pan-n-scan, which still didn't look too bad.

  All in all, for a movie with Kirk Douglas and Rock Hudson, it just didn't live up to expectations.

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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2006, 06:32:55 PM »

It was Ok...a little tedious at times...A Western soap opera. Such a cast...including Neville Brand & Jack Elam in supporting roles..but no great shakes.
I saw the "twist" coming very early on..but not, what in a 1961 movie couldn;t be more explicit about..., the exact reason that Douglas unloaded his gun..much too provocative...& chillingly interesting..but the way that it couldn't be presented...& only hinted at..took away the impact.
If you want to see a Robert Aldrich film that had a profound influence on spaghettis...I urge you to see "Vera Cruz".

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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2006, 06:33:06 PM »

  It looked like a movie that would have been benefited from that instead of the pan-n-scan, which still didn't look too bad.

Actually, it was one of those 60's westerns that had the same ratio as a TV so that was the whole picture.

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I immiediately saw Companeros at the end of the movie. First of all, the showdown took place on the outskirts of the city near a lone boxcar on a track ( like the Swede's weapons car ), then Rock Hudson takes out Kirk's derringer and opens it. He says " It wasn't even loaded " just like Tomas Milian said when the Professor was killed by Palance.

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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2006, 06:36:42 PM »

It was Ok...a little tedious at times...A Western soap opera. Such a cast...including Neville Brand & Jack Elam in supporting roles..but no great shakes.
I saw the "twist" coming very early on..but not, what in a 1961 movie couldn;t be more explicit about..., the exact reason that Douglas unloaded his gun..much too provocative...& chillingly interesting..but the way that it couldn't be presented...& only hinted at..took away the impact.
If you want to see a Robert Aldrich film that had a profound influence on spaghettis...I urge you to see "Vera Cruz".


i think Douglas left his gun unloaded because he realized that the girl was his daughter and he just felt so guilty. At that point, he wanted to die. that's how i saw it. But it still didn't save the movie which I thought was too slow, too drawn-out, and too soapy.   Grin

Oh and I did see Vera Cruz. I thought it was alright. I expected a bit more, but there were still some good scenes like the shooting compettition Lancaster and Cooper were in at the French Ball.

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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2006, 06:38:49 PM »

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i think Douglas left his gun unloaded because he realized that the girl was his daughter and he just felt so guilty. At that point, he wanted to die. that's how i saw it. But it still didn't save the movie which I thought was too slow, too drawn-out, and too soapy.

  That's what I thought, that he couldn't live with himself after the secret was revealed.  Besides, could you imagine that scene with Melissa when he has to explain what has happened?  AWKWARD.   Shocked

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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2006, 06:42:23 PM »

i think Douglas left his gun unloaded because he realized that the girl was his daughter and he just felt so guilty.

The implication...was that the previous night when Missy & he met..& started kissing..it went much further...which explain's his bombed out reaction to the news that Missy was his daughter...& his wish for death.
In 1961...they had to really be careful..but incest was implied.

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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2006, 06:45:04 PM »

The implication...was that the previous night when Missy & he met..& started kissing..it went much further...which explain's his bombed out reaction to the news that Missy was his daughter...& his wish for death.
In 1961...they had to really be careful..but incest was implied.

Right, exactly. We all know what happened after they started to kiss. It's just scarey.   Undecided

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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2006, 06:47:01 PM »

  Now think about what might have happened because of their one night together.  Poor kid....  Cry

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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2006, 06:49:52 PM »

  Now think about what might have happened because of their one night together.  Poor kid....  Cry

Oh my God!!!! That's....I mean...it's...you gotta.....oh my God!!!   Shocked   Shocked   Shocked

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  Exactly.  I've got that queasy feeling again.   Lips Sealed

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« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2006, 06:55:37 PM »

  Exactly.  I've got that queasy feeling again.   Lips Sealed

Take two aspirin & watch "Mary Poppins"..you'll be fine. Wink

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