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« on: December 02, 2008, 12:06:35 PM »

In my Macaroni Western Taizen book the author claims that Leone was "a Jew living in Italy".
This must be wrong.

I asked the same question over at the SWWB...

here were some of the answers...

http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=160642;article=168981;title=Spaghetti%20Western%20Web%20Board

They thought so because he directed...
... gangster epic about the jewish mafia. He was not jewish!


There is also the tale that he pretended to be a Jewish film crew in order to get permission to work on Sundays -this was so he could borrow equipment from another crew who could only loan it out on Sundays (when they couldn't work).



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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2008, 02:25:09 PM »

Leoni with an I is a common Jewish name, but Leone's family were practicing Catholics.

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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2008, 03:07:33 PM »

What if he was?

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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2008, 05:28:00 PM »

What if he was?

Nothing.
Just thought that bit of info needed clearing. Shame on the author of the book for lying about Leone's religion thus confusing a bit of movie history even further.

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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2008, 05:41:25 AM »

Whoa, whoa, whoa, Dr. Aquinas. One can be a practicing Catholic and still be of Jewish descent, since the definition of "Jew" is not limited to religion; it is also a racial/ethnic category. What Groggy says about "Leoni" is correct, and I don't know whether there is any connection between Leoni and Leone. It's an interesting question that I'd like to see answered. I kind of doubt that Leone was Jewish (if he were, why haven't we heard about it before now?), but maybe he was. I'd like to hear a more definitive pronouncement on the subject.

And yes, such a piece of information is important. It's important that we know that Kafka was Jewish, that Saul Bellow was Jewish, and that James Joyce wasn't (although one of his major characters was). This is the kind of fact that aids our understanding of an artist and his achievement.

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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2008, 06:51:15 AM »

Leoni with an I is a common Jewish name.

Like "Tea` Leoni" ?  So what; and she's pretty hot, too !!!

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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2008, 08:15:22 AM »

I'd have to re-read Frayling but I don't recall him mentioning the Leone family being Jewish. I do recall him saying that their name was thought to be Jewish by the Fascist authorities, but given his Father's connections to the leftist partisans, it probably wasn't much more than defamation.

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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2008, 09:05:46 AM »

I'd have to re-read Frayling but I don't recall him mentioning the Leone family being Jewish. I do recall him saying that their name was thought to be Jewish by the Fascist authorities, but given his Father's connections to the leftist partisans, it probably wasn't much more than defamation.
That's a good point. And if Frayling doesn't tell us Leone was Jewish than he probably wasn't. He'd know, wouldn't he?

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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2008, 12:31:15 AM »

That's a good point. And if Frayling doesn't tell us Leone was Jewish than he probably wasn't. He'd know, wouldn't he?

I'll just ask him myself.


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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2008, 04:43:39 PM »

What if he was?

Ahh, anytime there's an inquiry on a person's ethnicity there's always the dick who says "So what?" So what, your post is useless Cheesy So what if you didn't say "So what?"

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