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« : September 13, 2006, 08:16:18 AM »

The film in a nutshell:

mise-en-scene: Soderbergh's Traffic ("Establishing shots? What establishing shots? We don't need no stinkin' establishing shots!")

slow-burn moral outrage: Tora, Tora, Tora ("The fools! The blind, unthinking fools!")

Harvey Keitel: School of Tarantino (Stooge: "...and leave you with your balls hanging out to dry in the wind." HK/Mr. Wolf/John P. O'Neil: "Not these balls.")



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« #1 : September 13, 2006, 09:54:18 AM »

Then, of course, there is always this:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/09/the_path_to_911a_postmortem.html



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« #2 : September 13, 2006, 11:39:23 AM »

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When ABC cut portions of the most controversial segments before airing the film

Looks like you're in for another uncut italian release, uh?


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« #3 : September 14, 2006, 09:33:28 AM »

 ;D But I'm sure we'll get an uncut version on DVD here.



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« #4 : September 14, 2006, 10:31:44 AM »

I haven't seen it, but I've heard it's pretty innaccurate...ie. that Clinton didn't have covert ops in Afghanistan just about to catch Bin Laden, etc. etc.

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« #5 : September 14, 2006, 03:38:23 PM »

Strange, I heard it was accurate concerning Clinton.  All the more odd that a major network would actually air it if Clinton is made to look bad.

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« #6 : September 14, 2006, 03:54:33 PM »

Controversial equals "dares to criticize Clinton".  Republicans complain when they're portrayed inaccurately, but how often do they get shows pulled off the air and re-edited?

I have very mixed feelings in regards to Clinton's handling of terrorism.  I think he went about dealing with the problem the wrong way ("proportional" military response, trying to arrest Bin Laden, dealing with other countries who were at least somewhat sympathetic to al-Qaeda), but he was just following his predecessors from Carter onward.  And a lot of his mistakes weren't his fault, i.e. a commando team assembled by the Pakistani government to capture OBL was disbanded because the Pakistani government had been overthrown.  I'm critical of Clinton but I won't go too far in my criticism, because he wasn't any more wrong-headed than Carter, Reagan, or Bush I were. . .



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« #7 : September 14, 2006, 04:02:30 PM »

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Controversial equals "dares to criticize Clinton".  Republicans complain when they're portrayed inaccurately, but how often do they get shows pulled off the air and re-edited?

What do you mean? 8)

They just recently made a big stink over the Ronald Regan film that starred Alec Baldwin, remember. I think that ended up going strait to DVD.




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« #8 : September 14, 2006, 04:42:57 PM »

What do you mean? 8)

They just recently made a big stink over the Ronald Regan film that starred Alec Baldwin, remember. I think that ended up going strait to DVD.

Really?  Which one was that?  ???



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« #9 : September 15, 2006, 04:28:03 AM »

I screwed up its Ackerman not Baldwin and it stared James Brolin as Reagan.

CBS canceled it under pressure.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0383139/


http://www.brokennewz.com/displaystory.asp_Q_storyid_E_646reaganjacko

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« #10 : September 15, 2006, 12:50:23 PM »

Of course, the shows are very different. The Reagan piece was a hatchet job on Mr. and Mrs. Reagan, The Path to 9/11 was largely about John O'Neil that showed him increasingly at odds with a government's bad policy. That policy remained in force after the Clinton administration left office, so there is plenty of blame to go around. The movie is evenhanded about it: Albright and Sandy Berger look like obstructionist wankers, but Cheney and Rice come off as clueless buffoons. Why do the Clintonistas expect special treatment?



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« #11 : September 15, 2006, 02:55:38 PM »

The movie is evenhanded about it: Albright and Sandy Berger look like obstructionist wankers, but Cheney and Rice come off as clueless buffoons. Why do the Clintonistas expect special treatment?

My point exactly.



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« #12 : August 15, 2008, 04:56:53 PM »

All other docu-dramas are OK, this is the only one that bends the truth. Yeah, right.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-path15-2008aug15,0,4263402.story



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