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« on: October 03, 2006, 08:47:25 PM »

Just got done with it, a truly magical film, you ALL need to watch it, it's one of the top 5 Kurosawa films I've seen, for sure.

Of course, Firecracker doesn't need to see it, because he's a lame-ass phillistine who thinks Kurosawa's films are the cure for insomnia. PHILLISTINE! Chiuk chiuk **dances**




Anyways, about the film.

The film is magical, haunting, tragic, and uplifting . . . . all at the same time.  It's about an old man, named Watanabe, who's been working at City Hall for 30 years, and is caught up in the world where his job is, in fact, very menial ("He spent much time doing very little," to paraphrase the film), and the whole place is basically bogged down with so much red tape it almost gave me a headache just watching it. Theres a great sequence near the beginning of the film where a group of women are looking to get a park built, and it goes through all the times they get redirected to a different department/section and have to travel through this huge maze of bureaucracy, until they reach Watanabe's  section (public affairs), where he redirects them to engineering. That was the last straw of course, and they take a stand.

Then, later, Watanabe finds out he has a case of stomach cancer, and his very limited time left on this earth. He heads to the tavern, knowing that drinking while you have stomach cancer is basically suicide, where he meets an author/artist who takes him for a night on the town. The artist says he's intrigued by Watanabe, saying that he realizes that is time to "rebel against life." He gives a great little speech about greed and how it life is something to be greedy about, and live it to its fullest, not laboring for decades over miniscule tasks. He also spends a lot of time with a young co-worker, who he envies for her liveliness.

**SPOILER**

I put that there, because I don't want to tell the whole plot to people who haven't seen the movie, but i wanted to add in how, when Watanabe does get that park built, that, at his funeral, the members of city hall were arguing about whether or not he should get credit for building it. I find it ironic that, once it was built, they are sure that they should get the credit for building the park, but, if the women were directed towards them, they surely would've redirected them to another department.

And, also, since, if you're reading this, you've probably seen the film, that gag about how everybody made such a big deal out of his hat made me laugh.

**END OF SPOILER**

It was also acted marvelously, with Takashi Simura in the lead role. If you don't know, Takashi is the guy who played Kambei in the Seven Samurai (and if you don't rememver who Kambei is, he's the old bald samurai who rubs his head a lot).

And that's that (I threw it together because I told Sanjuro that I would  Wink )

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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2006, 08:48:20 PM »

Just got done with it, a truly magical film, you ALL need to watch it, it's one of the top 5 Kurosawa films I've seen, for sure.

Of course, Firecracker doesn't need to see it, because he's a lame-ass phillistine who thinks Kurosawa's films are the cure for insomnia. PHILLISTINE! Chiuk chiuk **dances**




Anyways, about the film.

The film is magical, haunting, tragic, and uplifting . . . . all at the same time.  It's about an old man, named Watanabe, who's been working at City Hall for 30 years, and is caught up in the world where his job is, in fact, very menial ("He spent much time doing very little," to paraphrase the film), and the whole place is basically bogged down with so much red tape it almost gave me a headache just watching it. Theres a great sequence near the beginning of the film where a group of women are looking to get a park built, and it goes through all the times they get redirected to a different department/section and have to travel through this huge maze of bureaucracy, until they reach Watanabe's  section (public affairs), where he redirects them to engineering. That was the last straw of course, and they take a stand.

Then, later, Watanabe finds out he has a case of stomach cancer, and his very limited time left on this earth. He heads to the tavern, knowing that drinking while you have stomach cancer is basically suicide, where he meets an author/artist who takes him for a night on the town. The artist says he's intrigued by Watanabe, saying that he realizes that is time to "rebel against life." He gives a great little speech about greed and how it life is something to be greedy about, and live it to its fullest, not laboring for decades over miniscule tasks. He also spends a lot of time with a young co-worker, who he envies for her liveliness.

**SPOILER**

I put that there, because I don't want to tell the whole plot to people who haven't seen the movie, but i wanted to add in how, when Watanabe does get that park built, that, at his funeral, the members of city hall were arguing about whether or not he should get credit for building it. I find it ironic that, once it was built, they are sure that they should get the credit for building the park, but, if the women were directed towards them, they surely would've redirected them to another department.

**END OF SPOILER**

It was also acted marvelously, with Takashi Simura in the lead role. If you don't know, Takashi is the guy who played Kambei in the Seven Samurai (and if you don't rememver who Kambei is, he's the old bald samurai who rubs his head a lot).

And that's that (I threw it together because I told Sanjuro that I would  Wink )


eh sounds allright probably will rent after Superman.

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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2006, 08:55:13 PM »

eh sounds allright probably will rent after Superman.

 Grin I find that amusing.

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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2006, 09:22:44 PM »

.

Of course, Firecracker doesn't need to see it, because he's a lame-ass phillistine who thinks Kurosawa's films are the cure for insomnia. PHILLISTINE! Chiuk chiuk **dances**





hey Silenzio can I tell you something?


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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2006, 09:24:19 PM »



hey Silenzio can I tell you something?



What?

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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2006, 09:25:38 PM »

What?


F uck you.

































AHA! didn't see that coming!
CHIUK CHIUK (dances).

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« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2006, 09:26:48 PM »

I walked right into that one.

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« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2006, 09:29:22 PM »

I walked right into that one.

ya sure did hop along cassidy!
YUK YUK chiuk chiuk!


But seriously....okay one more..

YUK YUK Chiuk! skip skop jubilee doo!


Okay!

take your time...


I have "Sanjuro" lying around in my "to watch" list. Perhaps I should give it a watch soon to counter attack your Ikiru combo!


Chee ta!!!!!!!!
Kung foo qua!

Ninja turtle strike!

PAWNED.

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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2006, 09:32:55 PM »

hop along cassidy!


Perhaps the greatest insult you could ever give a western fan.

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« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2006, 09:40:02 PM »

Perhaps the greatest insult you could ever give a western fan.
And what did you think of the rest of my brilliant post?


after you answer I won't derail this thing any longer, not for your sake but out of respect for Kurosawa.

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« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2006, 09:42:44 PM »

And what did you think of the rest of my brilliant post?


after you answer I won't derail this thing any longer, not for your sake but out of respect for Kurosawa.

You're the heavy son-of-a-bitch who thinks his movies are a snore.


Anyways, back to Kurosawa, I thought this film was SO good. Right up there with Rashomon.

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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2006, 09:44:45 PM »

You're the heavy son-of-a-bitch who thinks his movies are a snore.

your jokes put me more to sleep then anything Kurosawa can cook up.

Just because I don't particularly like his films doesn't mean I don't realize he was a worthy director, why else is everybody always talking about him?

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« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2006, 09:50:45 PM »

your jokes put me more to sleep then anything Kurosawa can cook up.


I'm not offended by that (I always consider the source)

And, considering the source ended his last post with:

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Chee ta!!!!!!!!!
Kung foo qua!
Ninja turtle strike!

PAWNED!

I am not offended.

P.S. We've hijacked my thread for too long, it's time to take it "outside" (a.k.a. to the Specialist thread, where we will now hold all "feuds" that get out of hand)

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« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2006, 09:52:30 PM »



I am not offended.
you should be, in many countries that is a fight to the death.

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« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2006, 09:56:10 PM »

you should be, in many countries that is a fight to the death.

Ap, ap, ap! The Specialist thread!

Be there, or be an L7

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