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« #75 : December 11, 2006, 06:40:31 PM »

understood... i'm really kind of wanting to let this discussion die myself  ;)

Glad. I just didn't want any sparks between us. ;D

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« #76 : December 12, 2006, 09:45:44 AM »

Right, poor people are poor just because they're lazy drunks.  While this may be true in a few anecdotal examples, overall this is a pretty ignorant position.  Love ya dude, but ignorant.

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« #77 : December 12, 2006, 12:56:03 PM »

I just didn't want any sparks between us. ;D

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« #78 : December 12, 2006, 02:38:05 PM »

Right, poor people are poor just because they're lazy drunks.  While this may be true in a few anecdotal examples, overall this is a pretty ignorant position.  Love ya dude, but ignorant.

Like I said, I don't want sparks, but this requires a defence. I did not intend to say that being drunks makes someone poor. You're right, though, that is an ignorant position. I however do not take that position. Sorry if you misinterpreted my statements.

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« #79 : December 12, 2006, 08:34:49 PM »

one final thought, as i was flipping through my earlier suggested book "In the Spirit of Crazy Horse", which the below passage is taken from.

"After four hundred years of betrayals and excuses, Indians recognize the new fashion in racism, which is to pretend that the real Indians are all gone. We have no wish to be confronted by these “half-breeds” of today, gone slack after a century of enforced dependence, poverty, bad food, alcohol, and despair, because to the degree that these people can be ignored, the shame of our nation can be ignored as well."


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« #80 : December 12, 2006, 09:18:08 PM »

Like I said, I don't want sparks, but this requires a defence. I did not intend to say that being drunks makes someone poor. You're right, though, that is an ignorant position. I however do not take that position. Sorry if you misinterpreted my statements.
All right, sorry I misinterpeted them

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