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Question: Which film do you prefer, GBU or BBC?
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« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2007, 04:45:08 PM »

If the extended Tuco torture scene had been of better quality would anyone here had prefered this to be restored along with the other new scenes?
I'd have to look again to decide. Undecided

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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2007, 04:48:06 PM »

If the extended Tuco torture scene had been of better quality would anyone here had prefered this to be restored along with the other new scenes?
I'd have to look again to decide. Undecided


No. Too long.

Maybe add that one shot of Wallach getting punched by Brega for real (when his head comes around to the frame after hitting some frying pans. Brega clocks him in the face!)

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« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2007, 04:52:44 PM »

This means what, exactly?

 Perhaps I should add the Roman premier version to the list of choices?
Surely then thats the uncut version?

I think its a wonderful scene and explains how Tuco picks up his cronies.Isn't that Morricone piece exclusive to the scene?

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« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2007, 05:16:21 PM »

Surely then thats the uncut version?

I think its a wonderful scene and explains how Tuco picks up his cronies.Isn't that Morricone piece exclusive to the scene?
That's a good question. Is it available on any of the soundtrack albums?

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« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2007, 02:59:18 PM »


No I didn't forget it. I purposely did not include it because that wasn't in either film (BBC or GBU) until just recently. BBC only had that scene for the Roman premiere and then was quickly taken out.


So to me, it doesn't even belong there. It's a nice scene strictly for curiosity reasons, but it does not belong in the film.

If the scene was included in any version of the film then that means Leone intended it to be there.Usually when a film maker cuts a scene, they cut it before it's shown anywhere.Personally i like that the scene was put back in.It fixes a HUGE continuity error.Oh, by the way if you haven't figured out, i prefer BBC.

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« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2007, 03:30:50 PM »

If the scene was included in any version of the film then that means Leone intended it to be there.

Yes, for a time. Then he had the sense to quickly cut it.

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« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2007, 11:20:39 PM »

Yes, for a time. Then he had the sense to quickly cut it.


I guess you didn't read the rest of my post.Here's what i said.

'Usually when a film maker cuts a scene, they cut it before it's shown anywhere.Personally i like that the scene was put back in.It fixes a HUGE continuity error.Oh, by the way if you haven't figured out, i prefer BBC.'

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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2007, 06:27:40 AM »

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Usually when a film maker cuts a scene, they cut it before it's shown anywhere.

No, it isn't always like that. I talked recently with Carlo Lizzani and he told me how he was amazed to go to theatres and finding directors like De Sica or Rossellini hidden among the audience. That is because the perception of a movie you have in a theatre with other people it is different from the one you have in front of a moviola with the editor and maybe, another handful of persons. So it is all but credible that Leone cut of his own accord some scene after the premiere. But the final cut was not what is known as GBU, but BBC.   

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« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2007, 06:43:03 PM »



I guess you didn't read the rest of my post.Here's what i said.

'Usually when a film maker cuts a scene, they cut it before it's shown anywhere.Personally i like that the scene was put back in.It fixes a HUGE continuity error.Oh, by the way if you haven't figured out, i prefer BBC.'

According to Frayling...
The scene was cut AFTER the Rome premiere.

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« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2007, 02:25:53 PM »

This kind of thing goes on all the time. Kubrick reportedly trimmed 2001 after its premier but before general release to help it play better with audiences. An even more interesting case is Peter Weir's Picnic at Hanging Rock; decades after its initial release, he returned to the film with more cuts. Now this Director's Cut of the film is about 5 minutes shorter than the original theatrical release print. Some of those directors just keep on tinkering with their films, I guess they can't help themselves.

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« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2007, 04:33:23 PM »

That's a good question. Is it available on any of the soundtrack albums?



At least some of the music is the same as "Mission San Antonio" that appears on the expanded GBU cd.

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« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2007, 08:56:14 AM »

I haven't voted for reasons I states earlier.
I prefer GBU but no two is better than the other.

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« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2007, 07:10:21 AM »

Could someone please refresh my memory as to the contents of the Socorro scene? I don't remember that one.

I've seen the deleted scenes seperately, I've not seen the Extended Edition or whatever it's called. The only two I really like are the "six is a perfect number" scene (although I'm not sure where it would fit in chronologically), and definitely the fort scene. I think that the scene at the fort should definitely have been left in - it does a brilliant job of underscoring Leone's theme that these three criminals are nothing compared to the crimes going on in the larger context of the war. And it provides reasoning for Angel Eyes getting to the prison camp, which in the American cut seems like an extremely implausible Dickensian coincidence (I never had a problem with it, to be sure, it adds to the film's surreal qualities, but it's nice to know).

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« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2007, 10:15:55 AM »

The Socorro sequence is the one from which the still of Clint in bed with the seniorita comes from. Evidently, Clint gets to romance the gal and screw up Tuco at the same time. Tuco is shaking down everybody for a nice bit of change but Clint gets away with the loot, one more reason for Tuco to go after him. As I understand it, this material was shot but never made it into any cut of the film and is now lost.

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« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2007, 10:37:57 AM »

I presume that people answering the thread's question have seen and can understand the dialogues in italian of BBC and those in english of GBU, uh?

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