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« on: June 09, 2007, 02:22:14 PM »

Doesn't he?

Indio is the most complex charakter... and always HE has flashbacks, not the Colonel. He is evil but tragic, mad but sexy...

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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2007, 02:29:39 PM »

You're right, he does... He was the man my sister remembered after she saw it in TV... Madman Indio. How could ANYONE forget him? No way.

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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2007, 03:52:10 PM »

I think so too. In fact, I think that even col. Mortimer got much more attention then  Clint's character Manco. This is the only movie (out of three MWNN films) where someone else has the upper hand over Man With No Name, At least until the final showdown.
Volone is magnificent, and LVC is great in the role of his nemesis. I think that this has to do with the fact that unlike Manco, they share their past, and they are conected by the deep personal reasons. Result; GMV and LVC characters are much deeper then Manco's.
He is here for the money and nothing more. That is why Harmonica's character had stronger emotional impact then Joe/Manco/Blondie's character (situation with Blondie is however is open for interpretation).

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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2007, 06:22:39 PM »

You're right. Without a performance as powerful as Volonte's, For a Few Dollars More probably would not be as great. The whole movie revolved around this character and Volonte was riveting!

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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2007, 02:51:13 AM »

It's a pity he must die...  Cry Cry Cry I loved Indio. That girl was crazy. If Indio would rape me, he doesn't need rape...  Evil


(If Frank would... uhhh... noooo... Cheyenne, HEEEELP!)

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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2007, 01:28:35 PM »

That's quite a controversial statement, Jill. Grin

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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2007, 03:05:29 PM »

He's a better villain here than in FOD.
But I think the guy who steals the show from all the actors here is LVC.
I bet the 1965 audience (or 1967 for the states), who were used to Cleef being a heavy that gets ofted quickly in all of his westerns before this, were really surprised with Van Cleef basically taking lead and pulling the rug from under Eastwood.

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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2007, 03:19:18 PM »

I don't think anyone knew who he was in 1965. Who would remember the second baddie to the left who never spoke in High Noon?

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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2007, 03:19:57 PM »

It's a pity he must die...  Cry Cry Cry I loved Indio. That girl was crazy. If Indio would rape me, he doesn't need rape...  Evil


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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2007, 07:46:39 AM »

This is the only movie (out of three MWNN films) where someone else has the upper hand over Man With No Name, At least until the final showdown.
It's the James Bond formula (which existed well before Bond). We tend to like interesting villains, whether they are called Goldfinger, Dr. Doom, or Darth Vader. They don't necessarily steal the show (unless you are the kind of viewer who is constantly evaluating an actor's performance). The fact that the bad guy can be cultured, charming, complex, and so on, and that the hero can nonetheless triumph over him, counts in the hero's favor. Better villains make for better heroes.

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« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2007, 07:50:42 AM »

Better villains make for better heroes.

That's SO true!

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« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2007, 10:55:50 AM »

He's a better villain here than in FOD.
But I think the guy who steals the show from all the actors here is LVC.
I bet the 1965 audience (or 1967 for the states), who were used to Cleef being a heavy that gets ofted quickly in all of his westerns before this, were really surprised with Van Cleef basically taking lead and pulling the rug from under Eastwood.


I'm still surprised till this day that Lee Van Cleef's carreer didn't take off in the States. He just had the perfect on-screen presence. His look screams super-stardom in my opinion. You're right Firecracker, he gave an amazing performance here.

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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2007, 11:40:44 AM »

I'm still surprised till this day that Lee Van Cleef's carreer didn't take off in the States.

I quite can't understand it either... maybe he didn't meet the right director in States... Roll Eyes

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« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2007, 11:50:08 AM »

I quite can't understand it either... maybe he didn't meet the right director in States... Roll Eyes

No, it's because directors were blind by their stupidity. That was Sergio Leone's genius in casting him. He seen something nobody else did and that's obvious talent!

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« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2007, 11:52:42 AM »

No, it's because directors were blind by their stupidity. That was Sergio Leone's genius in casting him. He seen something nobody else did and that's obvious talent!

That's in other words what I meant.

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