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« Reply #135 on: June 10, 2008, 05:58:24 AM »

Frayling talks about it on 376.

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« Reply #136 on: June 10, 2008, 06:05:40 AM »

moviesceleton has another suggestion (is he taking something?):

Hmmmm. This seems a bit windy for an entry about "the road not taken."

As opposed to the omnibus entry for "Sean Sean Sean"? Cheesy

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« Reply #137 on: June 10, 2008, 03:57:50 PM »

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You could add to Bronson's entry in the Encyclopedia this bit of info:

Was offered the role of Joe in AFOD but refused saying the script was "just about the worst I'd ever seen". Later he explained: "What I didn't understand was that the script didn't make any difference. It was the way Leone was going to direct it that would make the difference."


I believe I also heard somewhere that the script Bronson read was very poorly translated.  With lines such as: "We must go to the hill of boots!"

I can't quite remember where I heard this, or how credible it was.

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« Reply #138 on: June 10, 2008, 04:57:16 PM »

That bit of info might be good to work in, provided someone can come up with a source.

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« Reply #139 on: June 10, 2008, 05:37:09 PM »

Created an entry for Bullets don't argue/Le pistole non discutono.

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« Reply #140 on: June 11, 2008, 09:06:06 AM »


I believe I also heard somewhere that the script Bronson read was very poorly translated.  With lines such as: "We must go to the hill of boots!"

I can't quite remember where I heard this, or how credible it was.
It was actually Eastwood who said it. But they both probably read the same translation... It was on STDWD, I'll look the page up soon.

EDIT: It's page 137, in the end of the second paragraph.

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« Reply #141 on: June 11, 2008, 01:30:40 PM »

It was actually Eastwood who said it. But they both probably read the same translation... It was on STDWD, I'll look the page up soon.

EDIT: It's page 137, in the end of the second paragraph.

Afro  Good to know.

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« Reply #142 on: June 19, 2008, 04:18:07 PM »

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Cigarillo. In GBU, Blondie's smoke of choice and his trademark. Famously, he uses one to punctuate the ending of the scene in which he and Tuco meet: after confirming the bounty on Tuco's head, Blondie sticks his cigarillo in Tuco's mouth. After a cut we see Tuco, now tied up and hanging over a saddle, defiantly spitting the cigarillo out. Later, when tracking Blondie, the presence of a still-lit cigarillo at a campsite tells Tuco he is close behind his prey. After convalescing at the friary, Blondie passes his cigarillo to Tuco to signal the resumption of their partnership. It is a cigarillo that Blondie shares with the dying Condederate soldier, and a cigarillo that Blondie uses to ignite the cannon that brings Tuco to ground at the entrance to Sad Hill Cemetery. All attempts to see the object as a phallic symbol have failed. General information on the small cigars can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cigarillo

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« Reply #143 on: June 19, 2008, 05:23:18 PM »

Yes, the Cigarillo is a big part of MWNN's aura.



"All attempts to see the object as a phallic symbol have failed."


Hilarious and true.

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« Reply #144 on: June 20, 2008, 04:19:13 PM »

Yes, the Cigarillo is a big part of MWNN's aura.



"All attempts to see the object as a phallic symbol have failed."


Hilarious and true.

Yeah, it's a bit... small to function as such.

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« Reply #145 on: August 25, 2009, 05:47:10 PM »

A few things that I wanted to bring up.  I liked the rather terse entry for My Name is Nobody.  Richard Bright was in all 3 Godfathers as Al Neri.  For the Magnificent Seven, in addition to Wallach as Calvera, having European stars like Brynner and Buchholz in a western prefigured the acceptance of American audiences to Italian or European westerns.  In turn, the Italian oaters seemed to influence the later Mag-7 flicks (in GoM7 James Whitmore befriends a young Emiliano Zapata and LVC stars in M7R!).  Finally, I'm surprised that there isn't an entry about Clint Eastwood's Unforgiven dedication to Leone (and Don Siegel) or Eastwood's long overdue reunion with Wallach when Clint cast him in a small role in Mystic River.

Great encyclopedia though, I loved the water motif and Sean, Sean, Sean entries.   Afro

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« Reply #146 on: August 25, 2009, 08:27:32 PM »

Thanks, IC. You have some very good ideas there. As I've said before, this is a work in progress, and I'm happy to include suggestions. The easy ones you mention I'll get right on . . . .

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« Reply #147 on: August 25, 2009, 08:53:56 PM »

At Il Colonnello's suggestion, I have added the following entry:

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Unforgiven. 1992 Clint Eastwood Western partaking (slightly) of the style of SL (the English Bob digression is somewhat Leonine). Famously, the film ends with the title "For Don and Sergio," a dedication to Don Siegel and SL, the two filmmakers who can be said to have mentored Eastwood as a director. NB: The 1960 Western by John Huston titled The Unforgiven, starring Burt Lancaster and Audrey Hepburn, is not related.

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« Reply #148 on: February 15, 2010, 09:42:06 AM »

The entry for Rio Bravo has been updated:

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Rio Bravo (film). Howard Hawks' riposte to High Noon. It probably played a large role in the gestation of SL's Dollars pictures. Poster Leonardo writes:

Rio Bravo was released in Italy under the title "Un dollaro d'onore" late 1959 and it was a massive hit here. To the best of my knowledge, there was no other movie released in Italy after WW2  with the word dollar in the title which had such a great success as "Un dollaro d'onore".
So my bet is that whoever changed the title  from "The magnificent stranger" to "FOD",  must have thought about "Un dollaro d'onore". Last but not least, don't forget that Leone when discussing the soundtrack for FOD with Ennio, asked him to create a trumpet sound similar to the deguello in "Un dollaro d'onore" and "The Alamo" (score by Dimitri Tiomkin).

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« Reply #149 on: February 15, 2010, 01:30:21 PM »

Jenkins, Larry Rapp was in several movies besides OUATIA, albeit nothing overly memorable. He'd been suggested for the part by Joe Pesci since they'd worked together in Dear Mr. Wonderful.

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