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« on: July 04, 2007, 06:13:15 AM »

Just watched last night this movie after many years.
Found it still quite a good movie, the sort of movie that makes you grab a beer or the bottle of Jack Daniels automatically and makes you think rather nostalgically about the sixties..
Powerful shots of the surfing action.
Seems like Jan-Michael Vincent ended up as an alcoholic somewhere in Colorado: anybody has some up-dates on his whereabouts and present situation?
John Milius is quite a good director and a great admirer of Sergio Leone and of OUTITW in particular, but after Big Wednseday he only had a couple of box office hits (Conan in 1982 and Red Dawn in 1984) as a director.
Whadda you guys think about Big Wednesday;  just for  people of my age (54) or do younger guys appreciate it too?

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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2007, 06:51:21 AM »

I don't believe I've ever seen it. Undecided

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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2007, 08:08:34 AM »

I saw it about two months for the first time,and I had mixed feelings...

Although the movie has it's shining moments it has many flaws as well,one of them is certainly that is very incoherent.The parts of the movie can work if you look them individually but when you watch a movie it's like a serial of seizures...You watch a good scene and then in the next you don't know where you are and what is happening,and it takes you another few minutes to re catch.For example the scene when JMV is drunk and he causes the automobile crash,while his friend (the blond guy) is working as a baywatch-boy.

Other than that the movie has it's moments,there is nostalgia,nonconformist rebels,friendship,surfing,young people,60s,...

The acting is pretty much OK,JMV and Gary Busey did a good job,the rest of the cast is a little pathetic sometimes but let's say it's allright.


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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2007, 08:29:19 AM »

Milius I think is a better writer than director, but some of his films were pretty good. I've not seen this one though.

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« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2007, 09:12:49 AM »

One of my favorite 70's films. More personal and better than his previous DILLINGER & WIND/LION.
It is always good if a film maker is passionate about his subject.
I saw it just about a year ago for the very first time, it wasn't easy to catch before DVD over here.
I didn't know he included that many hommages on THE WILD BUNCH. That was great too. Not too obvious but done
with taste and feeling.
I love films which deal with the real past of the film makers - if they're done well of course.
Like AMERICAN GRAFFITI, DAZED & CONFUSED and recently THE DREAMERS. Excellent stuff.

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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2007, 09:20:14 AM »

Is "Dillinger" worth a look? The subject matter's of interest to me, and it looks like an awesome cast.

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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2007, 12:00:09 PM »

I like it (its Warren Oates, after all), but the film has TV production values.

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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2007, 12:14:11 PM »

Well, it's an AIP production...
Nevertheless surely worth a look! Quiet gory, again filled with hommages (besides Peckinpah, John Ford as well this time).

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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2007, 01:21:50 PM »


I didn't know he included that many hommages on THE WILD BUNCH. That was great too.


Right you are Mike Siegel! Including the mexican song "La golondrina" which in the Wild Bunch is sung by the people of the mexican village when the Wild Bunch is leaving, whereas in Big Wednesday it is gently played on the guitar by Willliam Katt.
What a great song anyway!! Afro

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« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2007, 05:51:46 PM »

Yeah... for my Peckinpah-book I wanted to translate it into German but my spanish was too bad to get the whole song. Couldn't find the lyirics online but in a rare spanish Peckinpah book from 1981...
You know the content of the song?

The mexican music of THE WILD BUNCH is used a bit here and there by people 'who know'. Like John Landis, who used JESUSITO IN CHIHUAHUA in THREE AMERIGOS with Alfonso Arau doing his 'Daaaamn Gringos!' thing...

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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2007, 06:53:44 PM »

http://www.mixed-up.com/lyrics/round/dream-awhile/

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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2007, 07:31:49 AM »

Non, that's another version (not the one Peckinpah used)...

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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2007, 07:54:20 AM »

Non, that's another version (not the one Peckinpah used)...

This is the right text:

http://www.geocities.com/royflores/popular/golondrina.html

Will try to get it translated into english asap.

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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2007, 10:42:13 AM »

yessir, that is it.
I already had it translated, but only to German..

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