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« on: July 08, 2007, 08:13:12 AM »

Dir. Bud Boetticher, with Randolph Scott, John Carrol, Wallace Beery Jr, Karen Steele, Valerie French.
Easily the worst of the six Boetticher/Scott films that I've seen. this one is basically a town bound, dialog driven, "meller".
Scott comes to town with sidekick Beery on Tate Kimbrough's (John Caroll) wedding day to settle past accounts concerning his wife. A lot, and I mean a lot of the supporing cast of town folk you'll recognise from TV Westerns, old Twilight Zone's and even Clint Eastwood films (Hang 'Em High). So far Carrol with Andrew Duggan as his bought & paid for Sheriff,  Swede Hanson are the weakest of the villians of the six .

Banjo has stated before that Buchannon Rides Alone is on TV in the UK quite a bit, from the synopsis that I've read it also looks town bound, so we'll have to get Banjo's opinion on that last one unless its shown on TCM this month.

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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2008, 02:39:04 PM »

Watched this film again last night, on TCM, not much has changed from my original opinion.

Scott & Beery both look a bit too clean after their ride to Sundown, no dust no sweat stains, at least their horses are lathered which was a good touch. Boetticher does include a sequence where Scott & Berry do take care of their horses after their arival in Sundown.

Again its the weakest of the ones I've seen, (all except "Buchanon Rides Alone") in the set.

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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2008, 05:05:51 PM »

Damn, my set didn't arrive today! Maybe tomorrow . . .

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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2008, 11:57:53 AM »

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This was pretty entertaining despite some fatal flaws in the script. All Kimbrough had to do was set fire to the stable, what was stopping him? It also would have been much more logical for Bart and Sam to kidnap Kimbrough's girl so his hired hands couldn't torch the stable/house (it also would have given the movie some momentum and pace) . Maybe the most annoying aspect is that Sam has rode with Bart for three years and has no idea why they're looking for Kimbrough. Are you kidding me?

I also didn't buy how the random group of citizens decide after a speech by the doctor to finally combat Kimbrough. It was implmented to get Scott's character out of the stable safely, nothing else. lazy writing.

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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2008, 01:23:13 PM »

At last, my Boetticher set arrived; I spun DaS yesterday and . . . man, what a lame film. This could easily have been a Gunsmoke episode . . . a bad Gunsmoke episode. This is definitely the Boetticher picture to miss. One interesting bit of trivia I learned, though: June Lockhart had already been cast as the Girl, but when Boetticher found out Karen Steele was in the world, Lockhart was out and Ms. Steele was in. And funnily enough, the part really was more of a June Lockhart role . . .

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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2009, 11:52:46 AM »

Glad to know this is the worst of the lot, because I liked it in spite of the objections. Fact is that, as pointed by Hackford in the featurette, here you have a hero who is not a hero and a villain who proves himself a man, which is quite unusual. Carrol, in a Robert Preston's role, is great and so is Scott. 8\10

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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2009, 02:14:11 PM »

Glad to know this is the worst of the lot, because I liked it in spite of the objections. Fact is that, as pointed by Hackford in the featurette, here you have a hero who is not a hero and a villain who proves himself a man, which is quite unusual. Carrol, in a Robert Preston's role, is great and so is Scott. 8\10

very true. Despite the shaky script, I'd give this a 7. And Scott is always worth watching.

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« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2009, 05:33:57 PM »

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I also didn't buy how the random group of citizens decide after a speech by the doctor to finally combat Kimbrough. It was implmented to get Scott's character out of the stable safely, nothing else. lazy writing.



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« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2009, 06:10:03 PM »

precisely.

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dues ex machina

Great misspelling.

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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2009, 07:27:44 AM »

Great misspelling.


Reverse the u and the e and you'll have your God.

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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2009, 07:30:51 AM »


Reverse the u and the e and you'll have your God.

Pleonastic.

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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2009, 07:38:10 AM »


Reverse the u and the e and you'll have your God.

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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2010, 02:46:08 PM »

All Kimbrough had to do was set fire to the stable, what was stopping him?

I thought of this as well but it makes sense that he didn't.
That stable is somebodies bread and butter. If he were to burn it down against the wishes of the townspeople then he might be facing a revolt, especially with the already delicate situation brought up by Scott.

despite all of its stupidity I really like it for the reasons Titoli brought up.
These surprises redeem the logical fallacies.

It seems that Boetticher's town based Westerns (This and Buchanon Rides Alone) all have some problems in the brains department while his bigger movies (which are little stories masked by large landscapes) are tighter.
That said I still really like the two town films.

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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2010, 02:47:25 PM »

Pleonastic.

Groggy didn't seem to think so but I'll give you the point.

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