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« #120 : September 08, 2007, 12:11:42 PM »

My god, it's just a movie!!!




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« #121 : September 08, 2007, 12:13:36 PM »

DJ, thats a great evaluation ;D ;D a 1/5 movie out a 5/5 evaluation O0

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« #122 : September 08, 2007, 12:45:12 PM »

This reviewer sites some more stupidity that I (and everybody else) has failed to mention yet...


"Probably the worst 1950s movie that gets mistaken for a great Western, "3:10 to Yuma" truly made such other self-important "meaningful" oaters as "High Noon" and "Shane" look hard-bitten and exciting.

James Mangold's "3:10" remake is in practically every way superior to Delmar Daves' stagey old snooze.

There's a whole lot more action in the new one, nicely mounted (if often incomprehensible).

The acting is much better, too, although we must concede that it's a break-even deal regarding the main bad guy, Ben Wade. Russell Crowe is his reliably fearsome, charming, deeply complex self in the new movie, but the insinuating, unpredictable outlaw was arguably mediocre movie star Glenn Ford's finest performance, and is surely the only thing about the first film that makes it worth viewing today.

And while they've kept the best parts of Elmore Leonard's source story and Halsted Welles' screenplay, this one's adapters - Michael Brandt and Derek Haas - have greatly improved dialogue; worked in engaging new characters, situations and themes; and have come up with a way of making the thing, well, move. The core psychological tussle between the captured Wade and his only dedicated guard, Dan Evans (Christian Bale), in an Arizona hotel room is still the key dramatic element of the piece. It's just not half the movie anymore.

For all of these things, Mangold ("Walk the Line") and his team are to be congratulated. Too bad that, for all its good intentions, the "Yuma" remake left its cowboy logic back at the station.

For those who don't know the plot: Failing rancher Evans helps capture Wade after the latter's gang robs a stagecoach outside of Bisbee. For reasons that actually make more sense in the first film, the town authorities defer lynching the storied badman and plot to escort him to the railhead in Contention, where they can then put him on the title train to the territorial prison and a proper trial.

In the original, Van Heflin's Evans and the town drunk ride the handcuffed Wade to Contention offscreen, and then we're stuck in that hotel forever. The idea here was to show the harrowing horseback journey from Bisbee across hostile Indian territory with Wade's gang (led by an enjoyably psycho lieutenant played by the increasingly impressive Ben Foster) in nerve-racking pursuit. Mangold also makes the posse transporting Wade much larger.

But that just gives the clever villain - whom everybody says time and again is as dangerously deceptive as he is ruthless - chances to kill most of them. Which he does because these ad hoc deputies don't tie him up well enough. Even though most of them make their livings being, well, cowboys - a profession you just don't last in if you're not really good with ropes.

It may seem like a minor flaw to harp on, but when you're dealing with a piece that, in both versions, depends on highly questionable behavioral 180s for its climactic effect, earlier lapses in believability just contribute to the head scratching. And the "tie this s.o.b. up better" complaint isn't the good guys' only judgment lapse (if Wade ate dinner at my place, for instance, you can bet I'd count the silverware afterward).

That said, the new version fleshes out Evans' motivating demons, employs his oldest son (Logan Lerman) much more extensively and interestingly and gives us a lot more back story - if not, ultimately, persuasive insight - on Wade. Mangold also makes the railroad a bigger, more symbolic element. Most fans will just be happy, though, that the new "3:10 to Yuma" fires about 5,000 more rounds than the dull earlier edition did".





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« #123 : September 08, 2007, 01:11:27 PM »

Hey FC or cigar. Which trailers were attached to 3:10 to Yuma?




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« #124 : September 08, 2007, 01:32:21 PM »

American Gangster is all I remember for trailer

I think there were too many new characters in the New Version unlike the reviewer FC posted.

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« #125 : September 08, 2007, 01:38:46 PM »

Hey FC or cigar. Which trailers were attached to 3:10 to Yuma?


Is this some sort of test to see if we saw the movie or not?




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« #126 : September 08, 2007, 01:40:49 PM »


Is this some sort of test to see if we saw the movie or not?

No not at all. I know you seen the movie. I just was wondering what trailers were attached. I love trailers and was just curious. I'm going again tonight and was wondering if they previewed anything I'm interested in seeing.




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« #127 : September 08, 2007, 01:42:58 PM »

No not at all. I know you seen the movie. I just was wondering what trailers were attached. I love trailers and was just curious. I'm going again tonight and was wondering if they previewed anything I'm interested in seeing.



The only thing I remember is a that Tommy Lee Jones movie about Iraq.
Looks like a snoozer.
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« #128 : September 08, 2007, 01:43:54 PM »



The only thing I remember is a that Tommy Lee Jones movie about Iraq.
Looks like a snoozer.
"Valley of something or other".

Oh, ok. Thanks FC!




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« #129 : September 08, 2007, 03:13:59 PM »

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when I first saw FFDM I was whistling the tune all the way back to the house.

You just picked one from a bunch, uh? I think it's unfair to compare anybody to EM, maybe even the Maestro himself couldn't come up now with something on that level. I rememeber going outside of the theatre whistling the McGregor's march and Companeros. But how long since one did that?

Anyway I won't go to see this at the theatre, will wait for the dvd. And I haven't got much expectations anyway by reading this thread. And what about the match Crowe and that modest film-star, what's his name? Ah...John Ford?


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« #130 : September 08, 2007, 03:16:52 PM »

You just picked one from a bunch, uh? I think it's unfair to compare anybody to EM, maybe even the Maestro himself couldn't come up now with something on that level. I rememeber going outside of the theatre whistling the McGregor's march and Companeros. But how long since one did that?

Anyway I won't go to see this at the theatre, will wait for the dvd. And I haven't got much expectations anyway by reading this thread. And what about the match Crowe and that modest film-star, what's his name? Ah...John Ford?

Go see the film titoli!




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« #131 : September 08, 2007, 03:24:01 PM »



The only thing I remember is a that Tommy Lee Jones movie about Iraq.
Looks like a snoozer.
"Valley of something or other".
Elah.

The only interesting trailer was for American Gangster, but I already saw that at The Bourne Thirdium.

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« #132 : September 08, 2007, 03:24:46 PM »

My god, it's just a movie!!!
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« #133 : September 08, 2007, 04:02:54 PM »


Its a good worthy shot at a Western but its not a Classic.

I can definitely agree with that.


I think the ending to the remake is far more believable than the original.

The only thing I thought was stupid in the remake was the offer of 200 dollars to anyone in town who killed the marshall and his posse. It was obvious that the number of interested townspeople outnumbered the 7 man gang, so why not just kill them and take the money plus any reward that's offered for them?


Rather stupid, but the rest of the movie made up for it IMO. I really thought it was much better than the original.


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« #134 : September 08, 2007, 04:26:50 PM »

I'm argueing with some nimrod (on another site) who claims that the soundtrack for this is just like Morricone.


WTF? ::)




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