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« Reply #30 on: August 04, 2007, 03:24:59 AM »

In Hungarian substantives doesn't have a gender.  Wink

They're called nouns in English... and they do have it in Czech. There's a story about a French actress who married a Czech actor (and eventually got divorced again) and had problems with the genders in Czech - "How can house be male? It's such a female thing!" Cheesy

The Fly is the real superstar.  Grin

In OUATITW it even had its stunt. Grin

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« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2007, 12:56:27 AM »

There are two kinds of flies, my friend: those that get swatted and those with acting ambitions...

The Fly is the real superstar.  Grin

In OUATITW it even had its stunt. Grin

Come on, people!? Angry   Don`t uderestimate fly`s acting effort and "Oscar winning performance"! Grin

Hey!  Angry   Now to be serious! I said that the fly`s "participation" in Leone`s movies surely have some "meaning" and that "they" actually "representing" some kind of "simbol" (maybe simbol of death or dying) that Leone intentionaly put into his films.

Because no one denys my opinion with valid arguments, I`m still saying that "they" are not there by accident! That this was Leone`s intention and some kind of his "touch"...! If you analyse it a little, I think that you will came to the same conclusion...

So, like I said, don`t f**k with the fly! Grin

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« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2007, 04:22:28 AM »

Well, I also feel they weren't there by accident, at least not in some scenes. I only said, that I felt the meaning was just adding to the Leone's dirty old West feeling... but who knows?

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« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2007, 07:54:17 AM »

I'd say they are there by accident or to give the scenes certain atmosphere. I guess you're alone with your theory, Bill, but I still appreciate it.

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« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2007, 02:53:10 AM »

I'd say they are there by accident or to give the scenes certain atmosphere. I guess you're alone with your theory, Bill, but I still appreciate it.

Thank you, Afro   but you should read whole this thread and think about it a little bit. Maybe you will then change your opinion, even a little. Smiley

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« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2007, 08:30:17 AM »

Thank you, Afro   but you should read whole this thread and think about it a little bit. Maybe you will then change your opinion, even a little. Smiley
I did read the whole thread. The fact that many indoor scenes were shot in Cinecita is quite interesting, but I wouldn't say that anything is sure.

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« Reply #36 on: August 08, 2007, 12:44:49 PM »

OK, whether the flies in GBU were happenstance or they added honey or something - they provide great realism and authenticity.  U.S. directors would've re-shot the scenes.

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« Reply #37 on: August 08, 2007, 12:59:51 PM »

OK, whether the flies in GBU were happenstance or they added honey or something - they provide great realism and authenticity.  U.S. directors would've re-shot the scenes.

Yup, and that's what I hate. I love realism like this. Sergio obviously did as well. There was so many scenes in his films that U.S. director's probably would have reshot.

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« Reply #38 on: August 08, 2007, 02:31:31 PM »

OK, whether the flies in GBU were happenstance or they added honey or something - they provide great realism and authenticity.

Exactly. So much that for first five viewings or so I even didn't actually notice they were there - I saw them, but it was so natural, that I didn't think about it.

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« Reply #39 on: August 09, 2007, 11:34:29 PM »

OK, whether the flies in GBU were happenstance or they added honey or something - they provide great realism and authenticity.  U.S. directors would've re-shot the scenes.

Absolutely true! Smiley

Yup, and that's what I hate. I love realism like this. Sergio obviously did as well. There was so many scenes in his films that U.S. director's probably would have reshot.

I totally agree with you, my friend! Afro

Exactly. So much that for first five viewings or so I even didn't actually notice they were there - I saw them, but it was so natural, that I didn't think about it.

In SL movies, every single detail is important, every single detail have some meaning… Of course we must make an effort to saw every detail (and when ever you watch it again, for the “***” time, you see some new details that you didn`t saw before…) and then to try to understand what was SL intention and what was he trying to “say” with it…

What can you say more…, then - that`s Leone, one and only…! Afro

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« Reply #40 on: August 10, 2007, 01:05:21 AM »

and when ever you watch it again, for the “***” time, you see some new details that you didn`t saw before

Which is what makes them enjoyable even for the “***” time. As all of us know. Grin

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« Reply #41 on: August 10, 2007, 05:07:00 AM »

Which is what makes them enjoyable even for the “***” time. As all of us know. Grin

Yes! Afro

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« Reply #42 on: February 03, 2010, 11:22:26 PM »

If it hasn't been mentioned yet, I don't have the time to read through 3 pages of stuff but I did enjoy the first, there is a fly crawling around the brim of AE's hat when he's having his "calm" brunch with Stevens.

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« Reply #43 on: February 04, 2010, 11:30:40 PM »

I agree that some of the flies in the Leone SWs are just "volunteers". Having said that, I think Leone may have had some sort of fixation with flies. Just look at the opening scene in OUATITW, and that fly was surely not a "volunteer".

More about flies here.

http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=1992.0

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